A brief history of RMT

[Tiddlywinks]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this got missed. Everyone needs to read this.

I read it. It sounds like you gave Ephi information and got made that he had not banned people 1-day later. This was 10 days ago. What has come of it?

Give us names!

P.S. Ephi sounds pretty friendly and reasonable, and you sperged out on him. Not exactly a good mark on your personality resume.

[Kiwaukee]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this got missed. Everyone needs to read this.

Your giant ass copy and paste didn't get missed. 75% of the people in this thread have you on ignore. No one gives a shit what you say, because you're an attention whore who has proven that all you want is your shitty little account unbanned.

[15:13] <Systolic> The problem is that I cant definitely link anything

This is all that we see, and it's all that matters. Shut the fuck up and go away.

[August]

If you don't understand RMT you have too much free time, honestly.

As a 15 year old kid I caught onto play buying/selling and acct buying/selling on Live. The market for platinum was so fluid that if you had a Legends server account you could buy plat on one server, switch it to a new account, and sell back to major plat buyers to make a couple cents on the dollar. Actually use PA and you're making 10-30%.

When I played WoW after I got my first job (hence no more time) I paid a company 100 bucks to level a priest to 60 for me on a new server. I wanted to play a priest, didn't have the time to level it myself, and the 100 bucks equated to 2 hours of my work life. Is it worth 2 hours to be able to play a character with my friends? Absolutely.

You can twist it pretty easily to not be 'cheating'. It is no different from micro-transactions (pay to win) and even the RMT AH in D3 (which sucked btw).

When it comes down to it you have a bunch of people in their late 20s and early 30s through 40s that play on this server that played EQ back in its classic era. You can bet there are atleast a couple hundred of people here who have well paying jobs. You can also bet there are at least a couple hundred people here that want to play a top level toon, or a well-geared toon, but don't have enough consecutive hours to do the grind. It took me like 5 months to get my enchanter to 60. I enjoy leveling, however, and not the end game - so there was no draw for pay-to-win for me. If I had been motivated by killing Trakonan, then I can totally see a world where I purchase PP.

honestly the only thing these guys need to really worry about is paying taxes. They ARE making money so they better report their ill-gotten gains to the IRS.

The answer to this problem is technological. Like the war on drugs, you can't stop a service that people want. People who play here obviously want the ability to buy PP. The problem now is that it's being duplicated and illegitimately gotten. This is a technical issue that needs to be addressed by the staff.

Telling people 'stop RMT'ing' won't fix the issue. Trying to shut them down won't fix the issue. Fix server stability issues (the dupe), implement a better detection method (I can help with this, if you like).

So far I haven't seen too much of an official response. To be honest last night was the third night in a row that me and my wife logged on only to log off 20 minutes later because of deaths due to lag. I won't be spending much more time here.

[phantomz]

Does not matter what someone else is doing.
A rat is a rat.
Trying to rat on people for his own gains how did he know about these 5 operations if he was not involved some way in them he was having talking relations with these people, RATTING OUT HIS OWN FRIENDS FOR HIS PERSONAL GAIN.
WHY would he know so much about RMT?
His account obviously got banned for a reason.
Systolic is a rat.

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this got missed. Everyone needs to read this.

[thufir]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

wall of text

That Systolic really thinks this "proves" anything explains a lot. The whole chat log is his usual MO of throwing around accusations and thinking that his word means something.

As for everyone who wants him to go away the best way to do that is to stop addressing him. He is doing it for attention and to disrupt. This isn't real life so punching him in the face to get him to stop isn't an option. The next best option is to completely ignore. Every time he gets 5 replies telling him to stfu it just feeds his needs.

[LordSterben]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[15:05] <Systolic> If you give me names of trades I can tell you every single one that they are linked to
[15:05] <Systolic> ALL of them
[15:05] <Systolic> Ive bought from **** but I cant remember the name
[15:06] <Systolic> I know that he camps under a tent by shady swashbuckler
[15:06] <Systolic> Ive traded with ALL of these people

I had to lol when I read this. I can just picture the GMs seeing this bit of critical information and saying, "YES! Now we have you, you sumbitch!"

[Lyra]

So, people do cheat at games.

We played spades regularly with neighbors. My partner and I were quite good, and to make things fair we split our team up and partnered with neighbors. My partner and his new partner were cheating, making hand signals. I caught on and kicked him in the balls from under the table.

I believe your history lesson is encouraging complacency.

I'm going to kick him in the balls every time.

And just because it's my grammar pet peeve: http://www.towson.edu/ows/too.htm

[Tiddlywinks]

If you read this entire thread, the history of RMT and big business and came to the notion that I am somehow encouraging complacency I don't think you can be helped.

I merely suggested that the current tactics are (CLEARLY) not working well. Perhaps it's time to rethink and reanalyze the best method of dealing with the issue.

Being scary and hoping it just goes away isn't working out too well.

[Raavak]

Paying to get ahead in a video game is the whole reason Zynga exists.

[Systolic]

That correspondence is from 2 weeks ago before all the Dupe stuff started coming out.