A brief history of RMT

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by Raavak [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What is this?

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[Tiddlywinks]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's just no way there's that much of a market for RMT here...I could see 1k a week tops but how can there be people dumping that much money in with 1k population Max at a time?

High item values.. some items sell for upwards of $200 a piece. I believe there was a time Donals BPs were ~$400.

If anything, I think the enforcement of banning people that RMT has forced up the price of items and thus the plat/cash ratio. The higher the ratio goes, the more lucrative, underground and damaging it becomes.

The harder it gets to buy plat, the more expensive it becomes. The more expensive it becomes the harder people are going to try to make reallife cash out of it. It's a cycle, and part of why I think the approach itself needs to be changed.

Especially if the current approach is leading to the server beeing DoS'd and player connectivity issues. This affects all of us.

[Vaildez]

Originally Posted by Tiddlywinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

High item values.. some items sell for upwards of $200 a piece. I believe there was a time Donals BPs were ~$400.

If anything, I think the enforcement of banning people that RMT has forced up the price of items and thus the plat/cash ratio. The higher the ratio goes, the more lucrative, underground and damaging it becomes.

The harder it gets to buy plat, the more expensive it becomes. The more expensive it becomes the harder people are going to try to make reallife cash out of it. It's a cycle, and part of why I think the approach itself needs to be changed.

Especially if the current approach is leading to the server beeing DoS'd and player connectivity issues. This affects all of us.

But how on earth are there consistent buyers of items worth 400!? This is an emulated server!

[Tiddlywinks]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But how on earth are there consistent buyers of items worth 400!? This is an emulated server!

What do you mean good sir? People buy all sorts of stupid stuff I neither understand or try to make sense out of. $10000 cheeseburgers, $5000 bottles of champagne, private jets, pretty much anything on this list: http://coolmaterial.com/cool-list/24...veryday-items/

$400 cleric BPs are no different. People value things differently. It doesn't have to make sense to anybody but them.

[citizen1080]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But how on earth are there consistent buyers of items worth 400!? This is an emulated server!

When I was active on Bob I would get 6-7 RMT requests a week. I just got one today. There is a huge market for this.

[Gaffin Deeppockets]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's just no way there's that much of a market for RMT here...I could see 1k a week tops but how can there be people dumping that much money in with 1k population Max at a time?

Some retards have spent 1k in a day, you are mistaken.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Vaildez [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's just no way there's that much of a market for RMT here...I could see 1k a week tops but how can there be people dumping that much money in with 1k population Max at a time?

Even making a grand a week would require an absurd amount of time invested to maintain that much inventory. I would have a hard time believing that single person could even pull it off.

Anyone who is pulling in thousands of dollars a month is either exploiting, or has a large team backing them up.


On another note, RMT has existed here since the server began. I remember being offered real cash to PL or for items when the server was a couple months old, at that point I didn't think much of it...never took the offers and never reported them either.

[Sithel1988]

i have no reasons for knowing anyone who RMTs. whats your reason for knowing a person who made 6k off P99? huh?

[Tiddlywinks]

Originally Posted by Sithel1988 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i have no reasons for knowing anyone who RMTs. whats your reason for knowing a person who made 6k off P99? huh?

I won't speak for Systolic because he seems like a scumbag, but I know people who have made more, admitted to it, and still to this day play on the server.

Often people are not openly RMTing and they hide their intentions until some big event occurs (think IB leaving the server). I think if everything were transparent it would be shocking just how many RMTers you know, game with daily, and consider friends.

That goes for everyone.

[Karafa]

Originally Posted by Tiddlywinks [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Often people are not openly RMTing and they hide their intentions until some big event occurs (think IB leaving the server). I think if everything were transparent it would be shocking just how many RMTers you know, game with daily, and consider friends.

That goes for everyone.

I agree with this.

I'm just wondering what you think could be done differently to police this issue. Continuing to make it harder and more dangerous to complete a sale and subsequently forcing up the price does not seem to be more damaging to me. Ultimately I don't care about Platlords pockets being lined or not. If 10 people are going to purchase platinum for an absurd price versus 100 people buying it cheap then who am I to complain when it essentially does less damage to the servers economy.