Bumamgar

[Ranger1930]

I NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS GAME EVER EVER EVER EVER SAW GMS STEP IN ON PLAYER RAIDS.

Never on Xegony did this every happen. Not even when we woke up the sleeper . Even then they just waited till he wiped all the zones then they killed him and that was it.

Raids were just madness., you got your people there and you engaged them mob when you engaged it. if someone else came up with the people and attacked it before your raid did you got pissed and hoped they wiped.

Petitioning to a GM about it would result to him/her telling you tough luck.

These people coming up with all this rediculous speculations and time lines and 60 second roll galls. A 60 second roll call? WHat dumb ass started that idea. It takes me longer than 60 econds to take a piss.

Thats a joke. a 30 - 45 minute time window to put up or shut is one thing but that crap about swiping and taking stuff because of a 60 second Rollcall rule is horseshit.. If they gonna engage the mob in 60 seconds whether a raid is there before them or not they just need to man up engage it then loot their crap like the buncha dickheads they are and take the bad PR while not trying to make the other raid feel bad cause they in a Big F'n hurry to be the first ones no matter what.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Ranger1930 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS GAME EVER EVER EVER EVER SAW GMS STEP IN ON PLAYER RAIDS.

I've seen it several times. Do we cancel each other out?

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've seen it several times. I guess we cancel each other out

[Humerox]

Originally Posted by Ranger1930 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thats a joke. a 30 - 45 minute time window to put up or shut is one thing but that crap about swiping and taking stuff because of a 60 second Rollcall rule is horseshit.. If they gonna engage the mob in 60 seconds whether a raid is there before them or not they just need to man up engage it then loot their crap like the buncha dickheads they are and take the bad PR while not trying to make the other raid feel bad cause they in a Big F'n hurry to be the first ones no matter what.

Those do happen to be the rules, bubba. And they are GM enforced.

What ya afraid of?

[Jael]

Originally Posted by Ranger1930 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I NEVER IN THE HISTORY OF THIS GAME EVER EVER EVER EVER SAW GMS STEP IN ON PLAYER RAIDS.

Never on Xegony did this every happen. Not even when we woke up the sleeper . Even then they just waited till he wiped all the zones then they killed him and that was it.

Raids were just madness., you got your people there and you engaged them mob when you engaged it. if someone else came up with the people and attacked it before your raid did you got pissed and hoped they wiped.

Petitioning to a GM about it would result to him/her telling you tough luck.

These people coming up with all this rediculous speculations and time lines and 60 second roll galls. A 60 second roll call? WHat dumb ass started that idea. It takes me longer than 60 econds to take a piss.

Thats a joke. a 30 - 45 minute time window to put up or shut is one thing but that crap about swiping and taking stuff because of a 60 second Rollcall rule is horseshit.. If they gonna engage the mob in 60 seconds whether a raid is there before them or not they just need to man up engage it then loot their crap like the buncha dickheads they are and take the bad PR while not trying to make the other raid feel bad cause they in a Big F'n hurry to be the first ones no matter what.

I have to call Lies on the bolded part. Fess up, if IC wanted a mob, and another guild was there (let's say IS for example) - it was an ALL out battle royal of octagon proportions. There was /shouting /training /KSing /Ninja'ing and all manners of nastiness.

And it was AWESOME.

But let's not pretended it was all Lollipops, Sunshine and Rainbows, Mmmkay? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] Maybe we should've had a 60 second roll call...(although like you, this makes zero sense to me). It may have prevented th emany times both guilds got kicked out of the zone(s) and Havenlight got to kill the mob(s) we wanted. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.][You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]


Also, this means you were either Mantha or Aeon ?

[Skope]

Problem is that these "player-made rules" are enforced with the hammer of GMs. If your guild declines to follow these "player-made rules" then you should expect every other guild on the server not to follow them when WI are in the same zone.

Furthermore, I HAVE had it out for you and judging from the way you've handled both situations I'm inclined to believe I was right all along. IB gave you a free pass here, take it accept it and move on. They could have very easily said "Naggy is ours now" but chose not to when they called that 30 minute timer. You got away with one, quit trying to defend yourself and your laziness in learning the rules and move on to the next one.

Stating that you'll contemplate on whether you'll agree with these rules is BS. A developer a head of a raiding guild is now contemplating on whether or not he wants to agree with the player-made an GM enforced raiding rules of the server... nice one dude. You're looking classier every minute

[Bumamgar]

Originally Posted by Skope [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Problem is that these "player-made rules" are enforced with the hammer of GMs.

Oh really? Do you have a reference for that?

If this is indeed true, one would think they'd be listed in the rules and regulation section of this forum, one section I am familiar with and have read, not buried in the Guild Recruitment forum, a forum I've only ever stopped in to update my own personal guild's recruitment post.

[Yellow]

me personally thinks the Gm's have too many fingers up there ass's to be able to properly Play there Role as Game masters and make some actual worth while changes to fix the state of this snowballing server.

[Toony]

Originally Posted by Yellow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

me personally thinks the Gm's have too many fingers up there ass's to be able to properly Play there Role as Game masters and make some actual worth while changes to fix the state of this snowballing server.

GM's don't make changes/fixes to the server. Nor is Bumamgar a GM for that matter.

[whitebandit]

Originally Posted by Toony [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

GM's don't make changes/fixes to the server. Nor is Bumamgar a GM for that matter.

Developers make changes to the servers, and as the Patch notes read on the front Page, Bumamgar Is a developer and seems to be one who makes changes (per front page patch notes), and also happens to be a leader of the "new raid guild".

seems like something is wrong with that...

PS, i am not trolling.. just an honest player wishing more people would play honestly.