Why were we so bad during live?

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by WizardEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One word: Dial-up!

You were hardcore if you remember that shit.

Page two, brah. I had a hot-rodded Modem Blaster with the speaker disabled. Made 33.6 on a good day. l33t.

[Nirgon]

I think resists/melee damage/damage done etc all can use a review after we get the Velious content done.

Also, given the 4 years or so this project has been going, you're abouts year or so (less) into Luclin and farming only Kunark.

Trust me, I'm all for fixing invis pulling (it has other extremely important related mechanics, and gj Kanras) etc before Velious but some things I think require more research than development and can wait.

There's "more classic" with "quick" fixes, then there's the iron clad perfect formula. Some things need to get closer to classic that are in disarray, while others can be marked for perfect fine tuning later.

[Nirgon]

You can also run up melees and hit full mitigation disciplines (dodge/weapon shield) and then run them out when they fade to give breaks in the giants getting pounded

Many Velious raid targets are slowable too

[Lorraine]

Nirgon what are you arguing about?

If the community here decides that AoW has to die on day one, he WILL die on day one.
Just like the Sleeper did, when the community decided it was time to bite the dust.

The strat is flawless.
Enough people will be online (Velious release)
Enough cleric epics to res troops faster than AoW kills your entire raid.

The only thing that might prevent this, is massive zone desync due to the amount of people gathered.

[Nirgon]

Originally Posted by Lorraine [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nirgon what are you arguing about?

If the community here decides that AoW has to die on day one, he WILL die on day one.

I won't be up in arms on a kill, nor on the charm killing going on for months. I also expect early kills on all mobs in Velious, notably, because VP gear, epics and haste (especially 41% sky haste) are so prolific here.

My argument is only that when Velious has been finished content wise, we should revisit things like aggro generation on pull (max aggro on a pull given an ability/spell), aggro generated by melee weapons, spells, pets and of course damage done and received.

The formula here feels live-like, so I think it should stay as is until other more important things are completed.

I'm just saying, it needs a look after all is said and done.

Client stability here is literally 10 times better here than the old client. We'd engage Yelinak on live with 65 players and have 10-12 clients immediately shit the bed.

[Lord Traxor]

Maybe it was harder cause some of us were 12 freaking years old at velious release.

[Champion_Standing]

People actually had to figure out how to do stuff during live =)

Also, when a top raid guild found a strat to take down a mob they weren't exactly eager to publish it and lose their recruitment edge.

[t0lkien]

I remember even Vindi being a right of passage for guilds, and was no pushover. AoW required months of killing dragons to gear up for and have any chance at all. I think people are under-estimating Velious content.

[Nyrod]

going to get involed in this conversation because its making me wet.

i went through all my old SS from when Velious was open on VZTZ and although this isnt VZTZ i think in some ways it is the closest reflection to how it will look on an EMU considering all the arguments in this thread, specifically population and knowledge.

at the time of these SS, no one was NToV geared, most were only half geared with Thurgadin armor and many were still sporting kunark gear, not including VP.

not conclusive evidence but i highly doubt that AoW will not be downed on day 1. we did 3 attempts, got him to 92% 90% and then 82%. we didnt expect to win, we just wanted to attempt it with who we had online at the time. Heresy also made an attempt, dont know how that went except that they wiped. i cant remember, but i also think i remember someone saying that he wasnt doing flurries? so he may have been broken which would mean he will be far nastier than these few attempts. anyhow, hope this gets you excited.

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and here is a werewolf fucking a bear

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[Gnomersy]

I know why I sucked....I had a bedtime. Nuff said