Soulfire - Page 23

falkun · #1 07-22-2013, 08:36 AM

The server can have Classic mechanics, or a Classic environment, but with the extended release schedule P99 cannot be both. The server is trying unsuccessfully to ride the fence between the two.

I also did not say TMO did not kill Trak for fun, and you can have fun denying content to other guilds, as Cecily already alludes to:

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It's kinda the same thing I think. Loot denial to the competition. You guys just have something else fun to do with the stuff you get. A 20 Trakanon kill streak has the same psychological impact as getting your corpse camped I'd imagine. It's just a slower way to be mean.

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Yes.

Are you arguing "fun" and "VP key denial" are mutually exclusive?

Alarti0001 · #2 07-22-2013, 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The server can have Classic mechanics, or a Classic environment, but with the extended release schedule P99 cannot be both. The server is trying unsuccessfully to ride the fence between the two.

I also did not say TMO did not kill Trak for fun, and you can have fun denying content to other guilds, as Cecily already alludes to:

Are you arguing "fun" and "VP key denial" are mutually exclusive?

"cherry picking"

falkun · #3 07-22-2013, 10:42 AM

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"cherry picking"

So instead of answering a simple question, you attempt to skirt the issue.
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Alarti0001 · #4 07-22-2013, 12:48 PM

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So instead of answering a simple question, you attempt to skirt the issue.
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Someone is spinning here. It is probably the one using logical fallacies.

What was your question you wanted answered?

Deanob · #5 07-22-2013, 09:06 AM

Soulfire = classic

dont like it? there's the door.

Alarti0001 · #6 07-22-2013, 09:16 AM

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Soulfire = classic

dont like it? there's the door.

appeal to tradition.

SCB · #7 07-22-2013, 10:44 AM

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appeal to tradition.

If you're going to cite logical fallacies, make sure you understand them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

The server's stated intent ("Classic Everquest" - read as "as Classic as possible given client limitations and other factors") is why people are arguing for Classic mechanics, not out of love for Classic mechanics over love of the server (I'd gladly take no EXP penalty for hybrids, advanced tracking windows, and compass, thanks very much).

By definition, this is not a logical fallacy, and it is laughable that you would pretend this is an appeal to tradition fallacy.

Idiots who try to pretend they understand rhetoric are the worst kind of idiots.

Alarti0001 · #8 07-22-2013, 12:53 PM

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If you're going to cite logical fallacies, make sure you understand them: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appeal_to_tradition

The server's stated intent ("Classic Everquest" - read as "as Classic as possible given client limitations and other factors") is why people are arguing for Classic mechanics, not out of love for Classic mechanics over love of the server (I'd gladly take no EXP penalty for hybrids, advanced tracking windows, and compass, thanks very much).

By definition, this is not a logical fallacy, and it is laughable that you would pretend this is an appeal to tradition fallacy.

Idiots who try to pretend they understand rhetoric are the worst kind of idiots.

You show yourself in the foot there. Key phrase... "as classic as possible", debating what is possible in a current context is a viable concept. Saying no simply because soulfire were usable in classic does not demonstrate proper thinking. I love how you quote your own interpretation of a phrase and then deem everyone should use that.

Maybe you should learn about rhetoric and fallacy beyond a wiki page haha.

SCB · #9 07-22-2013, 03:08 PM

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You show yourself in the foot there. Key phrase... "as classic as possible", debating what is possible in a current context is a viable concept. Saying no simply because soulfire were usable in classic does not demonstrate proper thinking. I love how you quote your own interpretation of a phrase and then deem everyone should use that.

Maybe you should learn about rhetoric and fallacy beyond a wiki page haha.

"As classic as possible" is because of client/tech limitations. It's also not my interpretation, it's the stated purpose of the server.

I lurk these forums a lot, and always knew you were not very smart just from your post history, but Jesus man, seriously? You post here as if it were your job, so shouldn't you at least put in a modicum of effort at it?

Bantam 1 · #10 07-22-2013, 10:54 AM

I think anyone who has any experience in classic EQ knows this:

For the sake of this thread/arguement: The Donals BP is the same as a Soulfire for trivializing content. Anyone arguing that its not is failing to realize with a little research that TMO likely has a lot of Donals BPs and 60 clerics...

So arguing that Soulfires trivialize content and Donals BP doesn't is basically saying that you don't want to change the status quo.

Soulfires = upstart guild tool. Absolutely 100% classic.