Zipzop Interview thread.

[Systolic]

Originally Posted by Kesulos [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No matter the way you look at it from the outside, you're just blackmailing.

You want to help the server but only if you get your character back. But if you don't get your character back you're not going to play anymore, and then you don't care what happens to the server. BUT you're going to release it anyway, not to help the server anymore, but out of spite to get revenge against possible corrupt staff who banned you 100% justifiably.

Either you're a dick for blackmailing volunteer staff offering a free service, or you're a dick for inciting a riot and then leaving the building.

The only possible outcome without you ending up the bad guy is if you release all the information on a good will basis to the staff. With the understanding they've restored accounts in the past for people who have provided much less than you claim to have.

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

[Rhambuk]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

Maybe i'm just naive, or drunk, but I have more faith in our gm's/devs than that.

[Kesulos]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My only qualm about giving it directly to the staff is that it could potentially lead to more things being covered up.

I have a limited understanding of process of investigating and banning, but from what I took away from the stream is that much of the investigating is done by GMs like Ephi, and not the senior staff. If you claim it's the GMs that are corrupt, then release it to Sirken, who manages them. If you fear Sirken is the problem, release it to Rogean or Nilbog. If you think they are corrupt, you're screwed because they are as high up as it gets and at some point you need to put your trust in someone if you want any chance of anything being resolved.

I'm sure if you're accusing a specific GM of being corrupt, and you release evidence to support it to senior staff, the investigation will be handled by senior staff. It's not like they're going to give it back down the chain and be like "hey you're accused of corruption, please investigate yourself and get back to me." If that's the case, we're all screwed anyway then.

The bottom line is that unless you give them info without any preconditions, it's blackmail. That's not going to work here, it's been made clear.

I'd like to believe if you're being honest about what you have, you'll be rewarded for exposing it by the senior staff, and also respected among your peers here.

[Lemiddar]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I understand that exploiting the lie that I told is a great way to turn tables against me, but it doesn't mean that the issues I am bringing to the table are irrelevant.

Alright, here's the thing. You're right. Just because you lied about MQ2 doesn't mean that you're lying about everything else. But you HAVE to know that it certainly hurts any claim to credibility to had. I wanted to believe you. The OOC/shout drew me out of the tunnel and I watched for a few minutes before you were banned. You were basing your argument and credibility at the time on that. It was your choice. When that turned out to be a lie, given that YOU were trying to gather momentum with it, you lost the faith of most people. How could you not see that coming when you began this crusade?

As far as things not being able to be traced retroactively it doesn't seem to matter. I don't remember if it was Sirken or Rogean, but one of them said they had already flagged the accounts they uncovered using MQ2 that were trying to usurp detection. They were simply investigating further to make sure no one was banned. Stopping now wouldn't seem to hinder that whatsoever. If I'm wrong? Well, then instead of helping you seem to actually have hurt the server quite a bit. Instead of those players being banned your 'interview' served to help them keep playing when it was revealed that the server staff is onto them. Yet another thing you must not have considered.

The whole time it just seemed like you were a middleman for Stabbyjoe. Sirken and Rogean were trying to ascertain if you had anything new to give them, or simply the same old information. You spent too much time talking about that same information. I'm positive you have something, but I'm really unsure if you have any more than Stabbyjoe already gave them. If it's just a couple people on a long spreadsheet of RMTing that weren't banned it may just be because they were having trouble proving it concretely. It doesn't mean they didn't have information to begin with.

So, what do you do? Stop trying to be blue99 Superman. Apologize to the GMs for the way you handled this. It was short-sighted. Release everything you have. Send it to ALL of them, rather than just trusting one. If they all cover it up there's no hope of stopping it anyway. Post it publically on the forums. Rogean and Sirken weren't exactly warm to the idea of another huge thread coming out of this, but if that's what it took for you to feel comfortable it seemed like they would let it stay open. Hell, send it to some of the people on the board. I'm sure some of us would continue your crusade if this was all deemed true. I would, albeit in a much different way. If what you say is true, and it's such a big deal, I'm sure those members of TMO that had no idea about it would even be disgusted into action. If nothing else I hope it would cut the guild in half, allowing the honest members who care more about the server than the pixels to thrive.

If you came right out with all this shit people would back you. Shit, if you helped to fix the problem and didn't get your account back I have no doubt that you would get offers left and right to be PLd to the same level as that character was. Frankly, it's the perfect resolution if you're telling the truth. The staff still gets to ban you to dissuade others from making a public spectacle of yourself, and you still a fresh account with a level whatever character on it. Most would probably even help gear you up! But again, only if what you had actually mattered and you handled it well from here on.

Two questions I can't seem to clear up in my mind.

1) You said you were pretty new to the server when you bought this account, didn't you? Well, where did you get the plat to pay for it? The amount I heard was 60k, and that doesn't come from farming a few spiderling silks and pelts to make padding, like most new people on this server.

2) That account was flagged on May 23rd. It was mentioned that you started your thread complaining about the banning on May 29th. You said you'd only had the character a few days. Given that you have MQ2 now.. are we to believe you didn't use it then, and simply waited a week and a half to complain about your banning?

I'm not trying to be a dick. I'm trying to help you, and to understand.

[Breeziyo]

Originally Posted by Lemiddar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1) You said you were pretty new to the server when you bought this account, didn't you? Well, where did you get the plat to pay for it? The amount I heard was 60k, and that doesn't come from farming a few spiderling silks and pelts to make padding, like most new people on this server.

He said he got it from selling items from an account he received from a friend who quit.

[Turp_SmokinPurp]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yes, I lied about MQ2.

I was also just informed that there is basically no way that the exploit can be traced retroactively, so people who have used this in the past who may stop using it now are completely off the hook.

Essentially this will end up solving nothing other than getting me removed from the server, which is something I had already done myself anyway.
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This guy just drama imo, no proof has been submitted. Lies and Hax . Watch the full interview. Public post some proof or gtfo.

[khanable]

So which GM allegedly is part of this RMT shiznaz?

[quido]

Name us some TMO names! Even just one plz

[Systolic]

As far as the people who don't believe me about the info I have, Sirken confirmed with me in the talk we had after the interview that he knew that I had some form of information based strictly upon what I know about the items that PlatLord had. The fact that I have information about what really happened is 100% true.

[Systolic]

Roegan also admitted on stream that GMs have paid these hackers for their own hacks, and I have seen evidence of those conversations happening as well, though I don't actually have it in a way that I can publicly display.