Rangers, decent tanks?

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Melias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd need to do some searching, but I know most of that data is pre-SoF, but I honestly can't recall if bards/clerics got their boost before then or not. I think they did.

Go, go search powers, away!

Edit:

"The actual Post Softcap numbers based on the returns from the AoW calculations are (Quoted from Nodyin):

War: 34.38% (Keep in mind they have a natural DI advantage)

Knight: 32.25%

Bard/Monk/Cleric/Ranger: 30.3%

Beast/Rogue/Sham/Zerk: 25%

Druids/Silks: 20%"

That's all post-SoF, so I guess those are the cleric/bard numbers.

On Live rangers are pretty godlike, but yea, they languished for a long time without a real niche which made most groups avoid them since the Holy Trinity was king in people's minds.

That's what happens when too many mobs summon and rooting them doesn't help. Or when tracking doesn't help because everyone is staying in the same place. Or when you don't need to worry about them running away at below 20 percent health. Or when a ranger can't function as an interim tank like a pally or sk because mobs can kill you in one round. ETc. ETc. The content wasn't made with rangers in mind. And a lot of those abilities were given to other classes as AA's and disciplines. It just watered down our effectiveness, but groups still wanted us for our dps. This watering down happened to a lot of classes too. Probably has something to do with population issues. If there're less people, you can't have any single class be too specialized or desired.

Also you know, rangers have always been seen as gimp, but I think in classic we have more utility value because we're better able to work as interim tanks (when things go wrong) and can root (mobs don't summon) and so on. I'm probably missing the bigger picture, but I never said I was perfect.

Rangers not god, btw. John Lennon is god. And you -will- worship him or i will ranger gate you.

(i have an 85 ranger on live, btw. i can play him whenever i want. do you have that?)

[stormlord]

Originally Posted by Melias [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Coulda sworn bards and clerics had theirs raised to that level around TBS.

The ranger data is correct though.

Your softcaps should be correct too.

And for those asking what the hell the softcap and overcap return are:

The AC softcap is the point where worn AC stops giving it's full bonus, and instead gives only a % bonus as dictated by the overcap returns.

So a warrior with 350 worn AC (not displayed, worn is adding up all that AC on your gear) will actually only see 322.5 AC benefit.

Isn't that level based too? I would like to see a post about what the softcap is at each level. I think that when you increase defense skill, the softcap increases.

[mmiles8]

Soft Caps
Cloth..........= ~75 worn AC (yes, it really that low)
Leather......= ~100 worn AC
Monk..........= ~120 worn AC (if they are under 15 stone wieght)
Chain.........= ~200 worn AC
Plate .........= ~300 worn AC

This is from GEAR ONLY. Meaning you take all of the items, manually add their AC, and count it toward this total. Not the number in your character sheet. The number in your character sheet is a much more complex formula that includes your agility, defense skill, etc.