Miscellaneous: Custom Cowl of Mortality shouldn't have a tint.

CrazyPro · #1 02-17-2026, 02:52 AM

Currently on P99 the Custom Cowl of Mortality shows up as a dark tinted Velious Custom Helm. Although it technically always had this tint in the actual item data, it always showed up untinted in-era. If you run an emulated server on an older client such as the EQMac/TAKP client and give yourself the item it will not have a tint despite having modified color values in the database.

Currently on P99:

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I found this old newsgroup post from 2001 that implies that the custom version wasn't colored: https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...-msg-35642.txt

Quote:

Subject: Re: Cowl of Mortality - Trade in graphics

>> Check The Safehouse - same graphics as the plate helms, and I seem to
>>recall they were tradeable. One rogue complained his hat kept getting
passed
>>around by folks that didn't have a custom helm.
>
>Thanks -I'll probably keep mine as it is then. The 'pinty' black look of
>the cowl fits much better with cobalt/warlords than the absurd 'tiki'
>Ogre plate helm, which I'll get sometime anyhow.

Edit: I think I found the original newsgroup post the above one was replying to, if you're curious: https://dbsanfte.github.io/eq-archiv...-msg-35300.txt

sammoHung · #2 02-17-2026, 10:09 AM

The custom version was colored dark like it is on P99. It did not show up untinted in era. Anyone who played back then would be able to tell you this. It even says so in the text you quoted.

Quote:

The 'pinty' black look of
>the cowl fits much better with cobalt/warlords than the absurd 'tiki'
>Ogre plate helm, which I'll get sometime anyhow.

CrazyPro · #3 02-17-2026, 06:52 PM

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The custom version was colored dark like it is on P99. It did not show up untinted in era. Anyone who played back then would be able to tell you this. It even says so in the text you quoted.

Quote:

The 'pinty' black look of
>the cowl fits much better with cobalt/warlords than the absurd 'tiki'
>Ogre plate helm, which I'll get sometime anyhow.

I think they mean the cowl as in the actual unmodified cowl. They were discussing the visual tradeoff between the custom and non-custom version. If both were tinted then they wouldn't have specified that the version that shows up as an actual cowl had a tint, but they specifically say they think the black tint of the cowl fits better than the custom ogre plate helm look of the custom version.

If you've got proof that I'm wrong, though, drop it.

Goregasmic · #4 02-17-2026, 08:49 PM

I've always seen it as the tiki version on p99? Never seen the black one. Same for DE one.

sammoHung · #5 02-18-2026, 01:19 PM

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If you've got proof that I'm wrong, though, drop it.

Ask around. Custom Cowl always had the black look, and regular Cowl had no graphic at all.

Source: I had a Custom Cowl of Mortality on Live, I bought it in 2001, and actually still have it on Tunare server. (formerly E`ci)

sammoHung · #6 02-18-2026, 01:23 PM

Hard to find screenshots of Custom Cowl specifically from 25 years ago, but

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...al-bug.277127/

CrazyPro · #7 02-18-2026, 05:20 PM

There is one trilogy client server that's been around longer than p99 even (I think) but getting the guy behind it to give you access is a monumental task, I don't think anyone new has gotten into that server in years now. Would be nice to see if it's tinted there. I don't know of any other way to load into the trilogy client to test stuff.

CrazyPro · #8 02-18-2026, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

regular Cowl had no graphic at all.

The newsgroup post I linked above literally says it had a graphic.

Quote:

I'll probably keep mine as it is then. The 'pinty' black look of
>the cowl fits much better with cobalt/warlords than the absurd 'tiki'
>Ogre plate helm, which I'll get sometime anyhow.

sammoHung · #9 Yesterday, 10:15 AM

the CUSTOM cowl had a graphic and the non custom cowl had no graphic.

i know its hard to read, but trust me bro. the cowl was one of my most sought after items as a 14 year old in 2001. so i was over the moon excited when i finally saved up enough to buy it, in 2001-2002.

the reason i wanted it was specifically because it had the velious custom helmet graphic but painted black.

CrazyPro · #10 Yesterday, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sammoHung [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the CUSTOM cowl had a graphic and the non custom cowl had no graphic.

i know its hard to read, but trust me bro. the cowl was one of my most sought after items as a 14 year old in 2001. so i was over the moon excited when i finally saved up enough to buy it, in 2001-2002.

the reason i wanted it was specifically because it had the velious custom helmet graphic but painted black.

You can turn the normal cowl into a custom helm, but not the other way around. He said he would keep his as-is because he liked the pinty-black look of the non-custom variant over the ogre helm. I don't think he would've mentioned that the non-custom variant was black if the custom variant was also black.