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Old 07-01-2011, 10:30 AM
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As many of you know, a few days ago things were changed so that you can no longer bind in Kunark dungeons. This was changed because this is supposedly how it was on live. I never played live, but I'm in favor of maintaining the classic experience. This morning I saw an announcement from the staff that said we had until the end of the weekend to change our bind points if we are bound in a place (seb, chardok, KC) that we aren't supposed to be. Being bound at the Crypt myself and hoping to eventually put that pain-in-the-ass bind to use, I'm just a little bit bitter since people who were bound in Hate before they nerfed the ability were allowed to keep their binds, if I'm not mistaken. Like I said, I never played live, but unless that is how things were on live (where you could bind in Hate for a short period and then keep your bind after the nerf), it sort of establishes a double standard. I feel like people who are already bound in Kunark dungeons should be allowed to keep their bind points, just like Hate, just like TD, in the interest of consistency.

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Old 07-01-2011, 10:34 AM
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You have a good point, but I'm thinking we'd need to show proof that people were able to keep their bind points on live. It was fairly well documented that people were allowed to keep their TD bind points.
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:46 AM
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Correct, I remember TD Bind points and the ability to Bind in City of Mist, but not sure if you're able to on P99
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Old 07-01-2011, 11:58 AM
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According to the research found, Kunark dungeons were NEVER bindable on live. On here they were, which was a mistake. The bind changes that took place on this server should've followed what happened on live, which includes the Planes and TD no longer being bindable. A change by SoE versus a flub on here are two different things and this is only keeping that level of consistency.
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:03 PM
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Yeah, if there was a time where you could bind in PoH on live and keep your bind after the nerf, I really have no argument here. So this is confirmed how it was?
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:10 PM
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hmm on LIVE I was able to self Bind in Fear as late as LDON era (early 2004)
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Old 07-01-2011, 12:12 PM
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http://www.project1999.org/forums/showthread.php?t=8052

Nilbog: You may no longer bind in the plane in hate.

This was the patch where it was changed. I don't see anything on our sacred patch history Bible (http://www.tski.co.jp/baldio/patch/) that indicates a change to it, and I don't see a bug report related to it here on our forums. Guess that requires some insight from the people that changed it. If this is the same instance then there would be an issue of consistency.
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:12 PM
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According to the research found, Kunark dungeons were NEVER bindable on live. ..
Yes, that's my recollection as well. I had even mentioned this a while ago and assumed that I must have remembered incorrectly. From what I can recall, binding inside of a Kunark dungeon was never allowed so you could at best bind outside the dungeon. I remember this distinctly as I always bound myself inside a dungeon and would use my ports to get around. I bound at the Arch Ghoul Magi with my wizard on live and would often gate in to see if he was up..
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:18 PM
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So was anybody bound in Hate on live?
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Old 07-01-2011, 02:30 PM
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City of Mist is supposed to remain a bind spot. I still have my Prima's Offical Strategy guide buried somewhere in a box but I remember it stating in there that CoM was a legit bind spot.
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