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Old 06-25-2016, 06:48 AM
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Default Lodizal - "Raid Mob/Target" ?

Very simply: is Lodizal a "raid mob"/"raid target?"

Before I get pounced on by 400 people about this being the two-thousandth post about this topic, I just want to simply ask if Lodizal has ever been officially defined as a raid target, or if Lodizal has ever been officially defined to NOT be a raid target.

I searched many, many threads throughout the different forums and sub-forums, but I couldn't find a conclusive answer.

I was always under the assumption that "no FTE message = not a raid target" and "FTE message = raid target," but that contradicts the fact that Ragefire has no FTE message, but it is considered a raid target. Also, Awakened just had their raid suspension extended due to going after the golems in Plane of Fear in lieu of the fact that they have been officially defined to NOT be raid targets.

If the existence of an FTE message is irrelevant when defining what is and isn't a "raid target," I have also heard that if the has a variance, then it is considered a "raid target."

Ragefire has no FTE, is varianced, and can be 2-manned, but is considered a raid target. VSR has no FTE, is varianced, and can be 5-manned (4?), but is considered a raid target... so is Lodizal, who DOES have an FTE, is varianced, and can be 2-manned considered a raid target?

If there was ever an official decision on this, please reference where this was decided. Thank you for your time.
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:04 AM
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Hi Moose, this is Aikons

[Sat Apr 09 08:13:58 2016] Braknar says, 'Lodi is not a raid target'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:20 2016] Soandso says, 'it has an FTE message...'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:27 2016] Braknar says, 'Doesn't mean it's a raid target.'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:31 2016] Braknar says, 'My call has been made.'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:34 2016] Braknar drops mic.
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:07 PM
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Hi Moose, this is Aikons

[Sat Apr 09 08:13:58 2016] Braknar says, 'Lodi is not a raid target'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:20 2016] Soandso says, 'it has an FTE message...'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:27 2016] Braknar says, 'Doesn't mean it's a raid target.'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:31 2016] Braknar says, 'My call has been made.'
[Sat Apr 09 08:14:34 2016] Braknar drops mic.
Sweet so Awakened is good to go on lodi?? cause we are getting conflicting stories here.
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Old 06-25-2016, 10:51 PM
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Sweet so Awakened is good to go on lodi?? cause we are getting conflicting stories here.
It's June, anyone who is worried about Lodi and not BBQing with friends needs to re-evaluate their priorities.
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Old 06-26-2016, 01:05 AM
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Old 06-27-2016, 11:37 PM
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It's June, anyone who is worried about Lodi and not BBQing with friends needs to re-evaluate their priorities.
What if you want to have Turtle soup and a good old fashion calm bake? Why do all the drolvarg's have to get ground up and made into slim shapes and tossed over the fire? I mean for some of us, Dragon Steak just isn't on the menu yet. Maybe I should just go back to making my fish rolls and live without spices and sauces?
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Old 06-28-2016, 12:09 AM
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Sweet so Awakened is good to go on lodi?? cause we are getting conflicting stories here.
Might be better off being just staying away from him just incase
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Old 06-25-2016, 07:56 AM
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Ragefire has no FTE, is varianced, and can be 2-manned
Just want to pipe in to say RF can be solo'd, or at least Hoku did it one time-->>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAA4NeK46rE
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Old 06-25-2016, 08:10 AM
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Just want to pipe in to say RF can be solo'd, or at least Hoku did it one time-->>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAA4NeK46rE
Well he used every trick in the book to win. Many potions and other classes buffs. Of course this is impressive but just had higher expectations for a solo kill to mean to require less for success.
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Old 06-25-2016, 04:00 PM
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Well he used every trick in the book to win. Many potions and other classes buffs. Of course this is impressive but just had higher expectations for a solo kill to mean to require less for success.
It was indeed an impressive kill, however, he didn't even use close to "every trick in the book to win". You don't need buffs from other classes(no idea if he used any, his UI wasn't very descriptive). There are many ways to achieve that result, and quite a few classes I'm sure can achieve it.

Back on topic, Lodi isn't a raid mob even tho he has FTE message. Golems aren't raid mobs, but PoFear is a raid zone so don't go there if suspended. No idea why Ragefire is offlimits, but he apparently is. Those are the rules as I've heard them, but don't ask me to explain them [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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