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Old 02-12-2014, 01:48 AM
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Default does CHA effect cleric/pally pacify spells

Just looking for some clarification. Did some searching but couldn't find a solid answer. From what ive seen it does, but would like to see what others say.
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:52 AM
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i have no idea, but when i give pallies CHA buff they seem to be appreciative
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:43 AM
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Higher cha gives you a lower chance to get agro on a resisted lull
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Old 02-12-2014, 07:49 AM
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Higher cha gives you a lower chance to get agro on a resisted lull
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Old 02-12-2014, 02:58 AM
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anyone know about how much CHA to make pacify resist not agro on a regular basis?
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:42 AM
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Yes it does.

I could reliably get a 50% crit failure rate on a mob within 5 levels of me with about 55cha.
With 140+ it seems 95% effective.

Based on some non controlled, anecdotal feeling its as if there is multiple checks:
Spell resist check MR -level difference
Charisma resist check - cha level roll
And some sort of charisma resist check again based on MR again.

Reason I say that is say tolapumj for instance, with 240cha, I can calm and get crit resists quite often. A jugg though, calm resist 10x in a row with no aggro etc. Seems funky, or there is a specific mob resistance to it.

But for general xping and stuff, I find 140+ to be safe as houses.
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:45 AM
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awesome! thanks so much for the great info
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Old 02-12-2014, 03:54 AM
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I did some parses a while ago with my cleric:

LULL (156 lulls casted on a 100% RM guard) :
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59 CHA : 53% of fails are critical
134 CHA : 24% of fails are critical

MEMBLUR/ATONE (178 blurs)
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59 CHA : 41% success rate
134 CHA : 49% success rate
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Old 02-12-2014, 01:17 PM
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LULL (156 lulls) :
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59 CHA : 53% of fails are critical
134 CHA : 24% of fails are critical
I forgot to say that I casted the lull on a Freeport guard with boosted MR.
All of the 156 lull cast were resisted.
The sample is still small yea, but not that much considering all the casts account for the aggro/no-aggro stats.
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Old 02-12-2014, 06:04 AM
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Although that's still a relatively small sample, the difference is large enough to be significant and indicates that it does indeed affect paladin and cleric lull crit resists.

I've always wanted to borrow some gear on my enchanter for a project regarding CHA checks on things like lull, mez and charm. I could use my existing gear for 200+ cha tests, but I wanted to see what happened if I lowered that CHA as much as possible with various negative CHA pieces to see if the effect was exponential... Things like the helot-skull helm (-25 cha), fingerbone hoop (-10 cha), forsaken pariah mask (-25 cha), platinum skull rings (2x -10), gorilla hide leggings (-8 cha) and other interesting pieces to get the stat as low as possible and perform trials.
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