An Open Letter To Aruden

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Odonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you are to dense to see the point in this post i pity you. but allow me to spell it out....

HOLOCAUST DOESN'T BELONG TO ONE SECT OR RELIGION. IT IS A GENERALIZED WORD REFERRING TO MASS LOSS OF LIFE WHICH IS TOTALLY APPROPRIATE ON A PvP SERVER.

Is this clear enough?

the only thing the word belongs to is the English speaking population. most people hear, think of, or use holocaust and think of burning jews and gas chambers. if you want to use the word in another way, you have to provide additional context.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then you agree based on context that a guild in Everquest ( a fantasy world ) would not refer to any holocaust so long as the guild name was < Holocaust > ( a generic term ).

As when playing on a MMORPG (note RPG stands for Role Playing Game) where there are not any Jews, Native Americans, or Muslims (or any other real world race/group has undergone a holocaust) then the word is without real world context and should be allowed ( as it has been ).

It certainly did not hurt my "case"

General word used in the #1 most commonly accepted use is allowed. Sorry, try again.

the word, absent any other context and capitalized, refers to the judeocide in nearly every case. the context we have here on p99 is this guild full of retarded trolls who clearly picked the name for its controversial nature.

[pickled_heretic]

holocaust as a guild name? NOT CLASSIC.

[Autotune]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the word, absent any other context and capitalized, refers to the judeocide in nearly every case. the context we have here on p99 is this guild full of retarded trolls who clearly picked the name for its controversial nature.

you are now placing your emotions into the debate and trying to add your own context based on what you feel and what you think. The guild name is not controversial, only when you try to apply more meaning to a word outside of it's most generic usage.

The word is capitalized based on the fact that the name of a guild is a proper noun.

We have gone over this all already, stop running in circles.

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are now placing your emotions into the debate

being offended is ALL ABOUT EMOTION, because being offended IS AN EMOTION. we were talking about emotions the whole time. if we take emotion out of anything like the word "******" or "coon" or "chink" or any traditionally offensive word, there's nothing to be offended about. should those words then be allowed as guild or character names?

[pickled_heretic]

i have stated several times that i find nothing offensive about the word "Holocaust," just like I find nothing offensive about being called a "******," etc. however, out of deference toward others, i respect that in some arenas of discussion, these things are not appropriate.

i realize that you're a super jaded child of postmodernism, so i don't blame you for feeling the way you feel. i just find it quite poignant that people go out of their way to flame me for having a little fucking empathy for others.

[Odonk]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the word, absent any other context and capitalized, refers to the judeocide in nearly every case.

in nearly every case... so who are you to say this is one of those cases?

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the context we have here on p99 is this guild full of retarded trolls who clearly picked the name for its controversial nature.

pot calling kettle black

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Odonk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

in nearly every case... so who are you to say this is one of those cases?



pot calling kettle black

it doesn't even need to be every case. just most of them. intent is not important. I want to make a guild called "coondogs" because i am passionate about raccoon hunting? too fucking bad. the word in the social consciousness means something that is considered offensive to some people, so i can't.

[Odonk]

Originally Posted by Autotune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

you are now placing your emotions into the debate and trying to add your own context based on what you feel and what you think. The guild name is not controversial, only when you try to apply more meaning to a word outside of it's most generic usage.

The word is capitalized based on the fact that the name of a guild is a proper noun.

We have gone over this all already, stop running in circles.

finally someone that has caught on to what i said 3 or 4 pages ago

[pickled_heretic]

the word's most generic usage is best represented by a google search. aadill posted some useful references on how to interpret search results, you should seek them out.