Who started it?

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[Nirgon]

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black balled

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[Nirgon]

Imagine voting someone to not be in the UN, then getting "black list from the entire server" levels of mad over them claiming a camp instead of being voted into the rotation:

List to date:

Grats brother Tiffany on a "<Lineage> crown"
Grats brother Snewp on a "<Black Lotus> crown"
Grats brother Shaquilleos on a "<Black Lotus> crown"
Grats brother Saaxir on a "<Black Lotus> crown"
Grats brother Benanov on a "<Kingdom> crown"

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More to come, see you at dragons this weekend

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DMO camps tranix, UN camps tranix

One team is the good guys for doing it lol

Thanks for the read

Lets say, for example, that you were applying to an organization that had certain rules. Now lets say, you broke those rules during an application process. Does that make you a bad guy? Maybe? Maybe not. Does it hurt your chances at a successful application? Yes, yes it does.

Would tdmoo accept someone who applied as a male Erudite and rerolled as a female dark elf? No, you would probably tell them that your doors are open if they reapply as a male Erudite.

Feel how you will, but holding Tranix didn't give you leverage, it simply annoyed the people you needed to get votes from. You basically all need to step back and realize that this part isn't lawyerquest, this is polit-i-quest and getting what you want means winning people onto your side.

Now, I understand your gripes about the alliance. Frankly ST benefited when Kingdom, Venerate and BL were all working against each other. It's truly shocking to hear that the guild that benefited most from smaller guilds fighting amongst themselves is annoyed that the alliance happened. Why would I be shocked that a guild loses some of their advantage? They could have made alliances (and had in the past). They still can in fact.

I really don't see the actual problem. You guys have been losing politically. That doesn't mean you've been wronged, that doesn't mean that it's unfair, it just means that you didn't politic very well. Learn to politics and stop complaining that your actions (though not against the server rules) make you disliked by people.

[Nirgon]

we didnt break any rules, we waited for votes

we were denied one under completely false pretenses and lies

so we claimed an open camp

you guys went berserk over it

its about to rise to a new level sir and the corrupt UN guilds are completely in the wrong

[Attos]

Not getting your way != Corruption

Groups agreeing with each other is not unfair to the group that is disagreed with.

Welcome to the world of politics. Get over your 'we didn't break rules' mindset and realize that hurting feels actually matters in this world (where it doesn't in the lawyerquest fantasy you've been living in).

[Nirgon]

you denied us a vote under completely false pretenses that were acknowledged by the staff as completely fraudulent

the "not getting you way" is getting absolutely pounded by ST/DMO and this is how you're acting

which makes us act in response, which causes more problems

which ends up turning this into the same toxic puke bomb of an experience that got created on blue

and the same BDA idiots are behind it

there's no debating it