You guys just couldn’t grow up and play nice, could you?

[reevesz]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

AM has always made it right. AG is the one who constantly tries to dodge concessions. Core and Paradigm Shift are easy to work with.

[Sat Mar 30 02:58:09 2019] Jorlleag engages Magerin!
[Sat Mar 30 02:58:09 2019] Lady Nevederia engages Magerin!
[Sat Mar 30 02:58:22 2019] Alreddy says out of character, 'Lady N target'
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:17 2019] Lady Nevederia engages Draznik!
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:17 2019] Jorlleag engages Draznik!
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:27 2019] Qyba says out of character, 'Lady N target'
[Sat Mar 30 03:01:29 2019] Elzhi says out of character, 'AM concedes Lady Nevederia'
[Sat Mar 30 03:05:05 2019] Jorlleag engages Alreddy!

Please explain Elzhi. Not being a dick like the others, but wondering what mindset was going on when you made this call and went after Jorlleag without waiting the 30 minute lockout.

[aaezil]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah it probably will be for the people who didn't kill the stuff regularly. We really made the content itself trivial though because of how good everyone is. The content for me was working with a team to get the dragon into the zone-in, which is really difficult. But I know I can clear up to the spawn every week and kill every mob in that zone with minimal difficulty. The challenge I liked is gone and that's a bummer but oh well. Certain people will enjoy this style and I wish them the best. If the server ever changes to pulls again i'll definitely be back.

If you’re mad about having to play classic everquest i hate to inform you that this isnt the correct server for you.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This one might come as a shocker,

But what if I told you that we don't care if you like Aftermath? If you aint with us, you're against us, and we really give no shits about the haters. When I kill 15 NTOV dragons each week in my pixel elf-land, I don't sit here wondering if some forumquester likes me or my guild, believe it or not. You play to win the fucking game... well, we do, you prob just suck dick, indicated by your inability to kill 20 year old dragons without teaming with 3 guilds.

You gonna be ok brah?

It's only winning if you engage in some really radical RP, otherwise you're just engaging in some dragon based content Groundhog Day.

[Kesselring]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought this game was super easy and there's nothing hard about killing 20 year old dragons?? which one is it?? You guys are loaded with so many inconsistencies its hilarious

Its funny that you take what every corner cleric says on this forum as the bible of what the whole guild thinks. Anybody who does the pulls week in and week out will tell you that mistakes happen, the pulls dont always go perfect and there are many links in the chain that can break to make a pull fail.

I guarantee you the people in AM/AG/Core that matter will all tell you exactly what I said is true. Just because you're outraged doesnt mean that the people you dont know set out to hurt you on purpose. But hey I guess we all cant have a sane approach to this raid environment.

[Convict]

Originally Posted by Kesselring [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its funny that you take what every corner cleric says on this forum as the bible of what the whole guild thinks. Anybody who does the pulls week in and week out will tell you that mistakes happen, the pulls dont always go perfect and there are many links in the chain that can break to make a pull fail.

I guarantee you the people in AM/AG/Core that matter will all tell you exactly what I said is true. Just because you're outraged doesnt mean that the people you dont know set out to hurt you on purpose. But hey I guess we all cant have a sane approach to this raid environment.

outraged? what corner cleric? are you calling dannyl a corner cleric? I don't know wtf you are talking about... I'm well aware what goes into ToV pulls, I was calling AM out on contradicting itself all the time to spew rhetoric to support whatever their current narrative is, that's all. I think you are reading into it too much, perhaps projecting?

I actually think the new rules are great, guilds actually have to put real effort into killing ToV dragons. I just think AM is a joke on the forums that's all.
I think your guild is the problem with the raid scene on the server and has been for the last few years, as is any guild that plays with the mind set of monopolizing the entire raid scene, then you guys try so hard to smear your competition on the forums to make them look like the bad guys when its always been you.

[rezzie]

Originally Posted by reevesz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sat Mar 30 03:05:05 2019] Jorlleag engages Alreddy!

Please explain Elzhi.

Looks like Alreddy chalked up another sweet FTE in that laughable alt gear and three naked slots.

[Daloon]

Originally Posted by Convict [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just think AM is a joke on the forums that's all.

As oppose to being a serious forum poster? [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath clearly has more fun. This aint church it's RNF.

[jpetrick]

Originally Posted by reevesz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Sat Mar 30 02:58:09 2019] Jorlleag engages Magerin!
[Sat Mar 30 02:58:09 2019] Lady Nevederia engages Magerin!
[Sat Mar 30 02:58:22 2019] Alreddy says out of character, 'Lady N target'
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:17 2019] Lady Nevederia engages Draznik!
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:17 2019] Jorlleag engages Draznik!
[Sat Mar 30 02:59:27 2019] Qyba says out of character, 'Lady N target'
[Sat Mar 30 03:01:29 2019] Elzhi says out of character, 'AM concedes Lady Nevederia'
[Sat Mar 30 03:05:05 2019] Jorlleag engages Alreddy!

Please explain Elzhi. Not being a dick like the others, but wondering what mindset was going on when you made this call and went after Jorlleag without waiting the 30 minute lockout.

When you concede a mob your lockout ends.

[jpetrick]

We interfered with your pull when a very sleepy monk of ours tagged your Lady N. That’s pull interference so we instantly conceded Lady N.

[reevesz]

Again, not to sound like an asshole.

What about these current raid rules, particularly Q25? You clearly stated that Lady N is the target.

Q25: If my guild FTE's or engages a raid target, how long must we wait before FTE'ing or engaging another raid target?
A: If a guild/party FTEs or engages a raid target, they may not FTE or engage a second raid target until the first one is dead or until 30 minutes has passed (this doesn't apply to triggered spawn targets that your guild triggered/spawned). Example: If your guild is in EJ and you have Sev incoming to your raid, but then Vulak pops, you are no longer allowed to just drop the Sev pull to go for Vulak. You must either kill Sev, or wait 30 minutes before FTEing a new target. The only thing this rule does is further force guilds to prioritize which targets they go after. It does not change any other aspect of raiding on the server.