AskEQ! What item(s), gear, or weapon(s) do you feel are overpriced in today's market?

[kaluppo]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Allow me to expose my colon once again.
Dead wrong on woodsman staff, but high 5 for the In Living Color quote

Show's my age, lol. I was wondering if anyone would get that. And I am not wrong on the woodsman staff for two reasons.

1). I hardly ever see any rangers running around with a 2HB. That doesn't mean they don't have one in a bag or in the bank but it seems to me that all the 20+ rangers I run into are sporting either two swords or one sword and a 1HB with a bow in the range slot.

2). Opinion's can't be wrong by the very definition of the word opinion. They can agree with yours or disagree with yours but they can't be wrong.

[Muggens]

They just think dual wield is cooler/more dps but hard to beat wood!

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As someone who plays 2 high level casters and used zhearts on them, I'm going to agree to disagree. Enchanters will benefit from having one sure, but I wouldnt pay 145k for it. My necro will use epic main hand everyday all day, instead of a zheart even without being iksar. The regen is just too insignificant on a class that has lifetaps

I almost always use my necro to raid... Z's heart + iksar regen + regrowth = I can lich non-stop without losing HP and never having to swap weapons to my VP staff to lifetap a summoned eye. Nearly every raid mob is immune to lifetap (NOT CLASSIC!) anyways so it's a pretty moot point.

Over a 10 minute fight having 5hp/tick extra regen is the same as having an additional 500hp to lich, and no one would consider an extra 500hp buff that stacks with all other buffs and doesn't take up a buff slot to be insignificant.

All casters have a serious lack of hp regen items since they can't wear fungis or iksar regen bps.

For a soloing enchanter a Zlandicar's Heart is great and means a lot less downtime waiting for HP to regen.

145k is not really a lot compared to other items (I'm looking at you AOW monk pants, White Dragonscale Boots, Boots of the Storm, Helm of Rallos Zek, etc).

[Shinko]

z-heart is overated AF

[Lysander]

Originally Posted by kaluppo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I read that too in those threads. I just wonder why it was 100-200 PP for so long and then jumped to 4K. I grouped with a lot of rangers in MM, CoM and KC. Almost all of them were sporting two swords that were not epics. Now maybe it's just a fashion thing. 2 swords does look cooler then a big stick for sure.

Woodsman's Staff was never 100-200p. It used to be more expensive than it is now, the price is in fact falling, no tunnel rats are conspiring to make a 100p item sell for 4k. I believe you are thinking of the Silver Swiftblade which is said to be a cheap alternative to a Woodsman's Staff in several threads I've read concerning ranger weapons.

In any case, I can confirm that it is a great weapon and well worth it for any ranger at its current price.

[enjchanter]

@nikkanu I think in your equation, the iksar regen holds way more weight than the Zheart does but you do have a good point. If you hold it long enough it will eventually be helpful i suppose. If i had a VP necro staff, id probably care even less about a zlandicar heart tbh.

As far as enchanter, im not going to deny its usefulness. It served me well for the time i needed it but my Ring 10 makes it not worth it to me personally. I think its price is inflated because it comes off an alt tier dragon is all. Someone made a good point that if the fungi and zheart were swapped, the prices would reflect and thats my point basically.


In short, i think enchanters should pay maybe 60k for it (pushing it) and necros should pay even less than that.

[Nikkanu]

Originally Posted by enjchanter [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

@nikkanu I think in your equation, the iksar regen holds way more weight than the Zheart does but you do have a good point. If you hold it long enough it will eventually be helpful i suppose. If i had a VP necro staff, id probably care even less about a zlandicar heart tbh.

As far as enchanter, im not going to deny its usefulness. It served me well for the time i needed it but my Ring 10 makes it not worth it to me personally. I think its price is inflated because it comes off an alt tier dragon is all. Someone made a good point that if the fungi and zheart were swapped, the prices would reflect and thats my point basically.


In short, i think enchanters should pay maybe 60k for it (pushing it) and necros should pay even less than that.

All very true. It's certainly not game breaking by any means but is a nice luxury to have if you can afford it. Can just do what I did and join a raiding guild and get it for free. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Without Z's heart you still lose HP in lich form even as an iksar and if you are raiding you'd have to rely on heals or turn lich off eventually unless you could lifetap something (which in places like ToV might not be possible).

If you are strapped for cash and have more pressing needs I can understand holding off... but if you have plat to spare and want a good amount of utility it's hard to beat.

[kaluppo]

Originally Posted by Lysander [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Woodsman's Staff was never 100-200p. It used to be more expensive than it is now, the price is in fact falling, no tunnel rats are conspiring to make a 100p item sell for 4k. I believe you are thinking of the Silver Swiftblade which is said to be a cheap alternative to a Woodsman's Staff in several threads I've read concerning ranger weapons.

In any case, I can confirm that it is a great weapon and well worth it for any ranger at its current price.

You are absolutely right. I looked back at some of the posts and that is exactly what I did. Everyone seemed to recommend the swiftblade till 30 and then the woodsman staff till epics. The price I had stuck in my head was the one for the swiftblade not the woodsman staff.

I still can't see spending 4K for it though. If it was a bad ass looking axe or sword then sure. But a big stick? It's a fashion thing I guess. I think people come to groups with their swords in hands but pull out the staff when they fear kite in the karanas :P

[Iksar_with_a_plan]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's no such thing as overpriced. There are asked prices, offered prices, and market history (when ask and offer meet).

If I auction a Fungi for 1 million pp in EC tomorrow, it will not make that item overpriced, it will just not net me any buyers.

The right price is when offer meets demand, and that means that this is the right price for that particular item, at that particular time (bonus points if you just said "catch 22").

There's always one of these in every thread eh?

We get it, you took an economics class in community college...

I guess we can scratch that word from the dictionary then? Someone call Webster...

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Iksar_with_a_plan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There's always one of these in every thread eh?

We get it, you took an economics class in community college...

I guess we can scratch that word from the dictionary then? Someone call Webster...

No economic classes, just half a brain and some common sense.

Also I've turned a stack of bone chips into millions of platinum over a few months in the EC tunnel casually flipping shit on a 19" monitor while doing actual RL work on the side, 2-3 years ago (how? keywords: log, tail, grep, notifications). So I have a pretty good vision of the P99 economy, sellers, buyers, farmers, people in a hurry, etc.

People who use the word "overpriced" when talking about the EC tunnel action simply don't give it very much thought.

Again, there's no "overpriced" or "underpriced". If Boutik (or whoever the current famous EC flipper there is) decided to profit by buying as many CoS as possible, all he does it to drive the offer down.

The offer goes down, the demand stays the same, this drives prices up. But the item isn't becoming overpriced. It's still properly priced, the price just went up.

Just like when there's a new conflict in the Middle-East, gas prices go up. Gas doesn't become overpriced. It's just the new gas price.

TL;DR: the most overpriced item on P99 is obviously Lulz's cups of coffee. Now THAT is overpriced.