Can someone accurately explain GameGate in a sentence?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fucked up thing is that in a year, 5 years, 10 years there is still going to be male dominated market with those AAA shooty murder simulators going strong. That is...if the market isnt crashed completely

Well, at some point we're going to get equality in video games right? Books used to be exclusively for men (hell, anything important in society used to be exclusively for men), but that changed over time right?

The question is just, will it be 5 years, 10 years, 20 years? In a sense that's what this entire battle is about: one side is trying to make it happen faster and the other side is trying to put off the inevitable as long as possible.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Serious question Paul: while you may disagree with the video game industry, why do you not consider this kind of thing free speech?

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is by all means free speech, and should remain perfectly legal in every regard. I'm simply arguing, along with people like Anita Sarkeesian, that it should be beneath our contempt and understood as detrimental to a world in which we treat women as human beings - human beings who are every bit as human as men.

It should be unappealing to everyone. The people championing GamerGate have this perception that a less patriarchal video game industry - a less patriarchal world - would somehow be lacking or less pleasing to them. I don't understand this in any way whatsoever. Awareness about issues, whether those issues are tropes or the blatant objectification of women, has never made me enjoy something less.

I'm done dancing around the issue about GamerGate, and I'm calling a spade a spade. GamerGate was founded on misogyny, it promulgates misogyny, it reinforces misogyny, and it is synonymous with misogyny.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

one side is trying to make it happen faster and the other side is trying to put off the inevitable as long as possible.

what is insane to me is she is complaning about games.. the gamergate complane about HER... like

whats it to you if she complanes about toys, YOU didnt make them... ironcially the people that made them agree with her...

but like, why do so many nerds take it so personaly when they find out that the naked chick in a bikini is sexist? like just go, "hmm thats interesting, I hadnt noticed"... and fuckn move on with your life!

like to argue NO ITS NOT NO ITS NOT is so fucking silly

[loramin]

Well, clearly the community feels attacked. Like I said, there's a lot of history of the industry as a whole being attacked for bullshit reasons by the Christian crusade and such, so you do have to consider the context: when people start criticizing the industry, the proponents of that industry are used to reacting defensively and attacking back.

Not saying that it's justified, but if you want to understand it then that history is crucial to remember.

[iruinedyourday]

it definitily isnt justified... but yea I can see your point.

Also these are all people that have been getting kicked around since they were like 7 years old cus they are complete social retards.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

that is fucking bullshit im sorry, let me answer your question... why is it an issue in video games?

Because it is an issue FOR HER so she talks about it.

you are not the sun and the stars, how you feel isnt how the world feels.

there are PLENTY of OTHER PEOPLE that take issue with the objectification of women in fashion magazines.

All women arnt the same, they can have interests in separate things.

But couldn't you just flip that around and apply it to hers and your point of view too? Doesn't this type of.logic basically make all points of view moot?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But couldn't you just flip that around and apply it to hers and your point of view too? Doesn't this type of.logic basically make all points of view moot?

no no she is being critical of an atform.

gamergate is like SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP NO NO NO

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by iruinedyourday [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

no no she is being critical of an atform.

gamergate is like SHUTUP SHUTUP SHUTUP NO NO NO

So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Then why are you so upset? They have the right to create the kind of games they wish, you have the right to criticize them, and women have the right to play or not play those video games as they choose. Why the need for the strong language?

Originally Posted by paulgiamatti [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because - in case you've so easily forgotten - women who even dare to utter a word about these issues are having their personal information published, being forced to flee their homes because of the constant death threats and threats of violence and rape, and can't even go about holding a seminar without someone threatening to go on a fucking shooting spree.

That is the death of free speech. A better question is, why aren't more people upset about this?

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So she's giving an opinion and some of the people she's criticizing don't like it. I fail to see a scandal here.

she isnt critisizing people, she's constructively criticizing something.

they should look at that thing objectively and either say, I dont agree with that and... MOVE THE FUCK ON!...

or they should think critically about what her criticisms are and think how they may affect the medium and offer other varied constructive criticisms of the art form.
but just saying she is WRONG and STUPID... is a pathetic response.