The New TMO - Page 9

HeallunRumblebelly · #81 05-25-2014, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Splorf22 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

the whole point of the R/C system was to keep the R and C guilds in different sandboxes

except it's the r/c/ffa system (or whatever the order). To allow R guilds to compete when they wanted to, and to not compete when they want to and still get targets. It's actually still posted in raid discussion.

Erydan Ouragan · #82 05-25-2014, 11:55 AM

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When I say EQ, I mean the raid scene. And when I mean rubbing nuts, it's tmo v IB for ffa/c mobs. We have literally no interaction with the R guilds.

Every bit of that nasty shit was zeelot's tmo. Since the reform, not a single occurence. Admittedly I'd be a little salty waiting months for an epic when tmo/ib are gearing alts, but that's just the nature of high end EQ if you wish to maintain a competitive (sometimes to unhealthy levels :P) environment. As much shit as we talk to IB, we'd be kind of crestfallen without them there. And they us.

That's the problem right there. At what point is enough is enough? If people are waiting months for epics, why are you gearing alts? Just because you can? Why not let them have it, or at least just try? I'll tell you why, in my opinion:

It's not about the competitive environment. It's about ego and status. You're holding the top guild position on the server. You have the best gear and have the hardest zone on farm status, you could totally give mobs to other guilds, hell, you could even help them, but then, they would get the best gear too right? And if that happened, you wouldn't be the top guild anymore. Let me ask you this: if raid R and C classes didn't exist and everything was still FTE, would the new TMO share raid targets with other guilds?

If zeelot is gone and TMO is a new guild, legit and everything, then i think you guys should have reformed under another name, because of everything that happened in the past. Don't you think?

HeallunRumblebelly · #83 05-25-2014, 12:01 PM

The guild name choice was on the table as part of the merge. It was declined in favor of other things.

As for the farm, I still have alts (which I use to raid) that require gear, most of the people in TMO do as well. We'll never stop needing PD loots. I'm pretty sure we'd kill everything if we had the chance because there still are things we require.

Ego and status are definitely part of it. I think most people who put in what the members of TMO put in would like the same. It's a great feeling to get that FTE which gets the kill. To get those clutch soulfire clicks in to save the day. It's that rush of raiding which keeps many coming back and admittedly the look and status of the gear is another motivating factor for some. I've personally enjoyed increasing my power projection to having many different geared 60s to be anywhere at any time ready to kill things with what is required.

This was re hashed repeatedly in the GM discussions before we had the r/c/ffa system. In the end the players couldn't come to an agreement (or even the GMs, really) so rogean set up something and it's worked out pretty well so far. I'm just not sure there really is a middle ground between the R and C guilds, and as long as the C guilds are constantly recruiting (because burnout does happen, especially with all the pops happening over the course of 2 days) I'm not sure if another guild will rise up to C status.

Heebo · #84 05-25-2014, 12:03 PM

lol "guys, golden doesn't have a guild tag let's just KS it"

GMs "oh you IB rascals. You do that ooooone more time...!"

HeallunRumblebelly · #85 05-25-2014, 12:04 PM

I should also add that the only things that rot are things that are specific and truly garbage. Lots of vp 2 handers (sans rile) and vp warrior weapons--because most of the 60 warriors even outside of TMO have epics. We still have shaman that need dragonborn, necros that need adversity, wizards that need rend robes, melee that need sow swords, and monks that want grey suede. It's just the nature of the beast, especially with turnover.

Erydan Ouragan · #86 05-25-2014, 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HeallunRumblebelly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The guild name choice was on the table as part of the merge. It was declined in favor of other things.

As for the farm, I still have alts (which I use to raid) that require gear, most of the people in TMO do as well. We'll never stop needing PD loots. I'm pretty sure we'd kill everything if we had the chance because there still are things we require.

Ego and status are definitely part of it. I think most people who put in what the members of TMO put in would like the same. It's a great feeling to get that FTE which gets the kill. To get those clutch soulfire clicks in to save the day. It's that rush of raiding which keeps many coming back and admittedly the look and status of the gear is another motivating factor for some. I've personally enjoyed increasing my power projection to having many different geared 60s to be anywhere at any time ready to kill things with what is required.

This was re hashed repeatedly in the GM discussions before we had the r/c/ffa system. In the end the players couldn't come to an agreement (or even the GMs, really) so rogean set up something and it's worked out pretty well so far. I'm just not sure there really is a middle ground between the R and C guilds, and as long as the C guilds are constantly recruiting (because burnout does happen, especially with all the pops happening over the course of 2 days) I'm not sure if another guild will rise up to C status.

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Mezzmur · #87 05-25-2014, 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Heebo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

lol "guys, golden doesn't have a guild tag let's just KS it"

GMs "oh you IB rascals. You do that ooooone more time...!"

/thread!

JayN · #88 05-25-2014, 12:22 PM

Good to know gms continually let rogeans friends (IB) do whatever they wish sickening folks sickening

JayN · #89 05-25-2014, 12:23 PM

the world is so corrupt

Mezzmur · #90 05-25-2014, 12:24 PM

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Learn to read idiots, your spin wasn't even necessary... but good work throwing situations out there that weren't even touched on to verify your guilty conscience.

There are TMO alts in Asgard it's fact, quit trying to act like there aren't. You've even said in the past you welcome alts of other guilds as long as they don't talk ill about anyone else lol.

Who cares? If they're not doing anything shady but raiding with the guild under the guild bannner with alts.

I know people with alts in any number of Class R guilds because the raid scene is now 2 days a week instead of 7. It's either don't long on or find other stuff to do.