Outlaw Powerleveling

[arcanebrain]

So it appears to me that the problem isn't power-leveling but douchebaggery.

[Heavydrop]

I'm of two minds about power leveling, but I will say this...
If you're going to do it at least have the decency to go somewhere people
aren't trying to group or solo grind up some exp.
Few things are really as annoying as trying to level up in, say Mistmoore
and having some nut pulling mobs right over the top of you or mobs that you
and your group need to level and causing a frakking mess.
Have some, whatever you want to call it, and go somewhere else

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Arclanz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Clerics, SKs, Necros, Shamans, Bards are good at powerleveling others? ROFL. If the powerleveler cannot cast a DS they suck at it, comparatively. Oh wait someone mentioned FD wipes aggro here so maybe monk/necro/bard might be ok on this non-classic server.

I'm trying to be nice here... but it's hard.


Shaman DS pots give as good of a DS as a druid or mage could cast and are are usable by a cleric, who then PLs in the same manner as a druid. A cleric with high-end gear becomes better than a druid because while a druid has a fungi and regrowth and a manastone, the cleric has a fungi and a donals breastplate and a manstone and more armor and better hp buffs and non-damaging root.

Necros can get xp for the powerlevelee by dotting up a mob and letting the PLee hit it for 1+ damage and then feigning. The dots finish off the mob and the PLee gets the xp, since he hit it. SK can work the same way but with melee + crappy dots.

Shamans can buff the hell out of a melee and then feed them slowed, rooted mobs nonstop thanks to canni and regen and whatnot. You aren't going to PL a level 5 on level 30 mobs with a sham PL like you could do with a druid or cleric or necro, but a 60 sham is a GREAT PL for twinked melee once they're a bit higher and killing swarms of yellowish cons.

Bards can PL PBAOE classes by using AE slow songs and stuff like that to keep aggro while the wizard/bard/whatever kills off this huge pull with PBAOE. Works basically to 60, too, if you really know what you're doing and you're PLing another bard!


Like I said. Some noobs *cough*, I mean people, just think druids are the only and the best PL because they got druid buffs at the tunnel in EC and loved how well they worked at killing pumas and rattlesnakes, so then they didn't bother to think about how other classes with different abilities could accomplish PL in their own way.

[Tecmos Deception]

Also, I get the feeling that quite a few people in this thread think that just because they say in ooc that certain mobs are "camped," that means that those mobs are off limits to everyone else because of some "I was here and I can use /ooc so therefore I win" mentality.


There are 7 (or 8?) spectres in oasis, on like 6ish minute respawns. If there is a 40-ish necro or cleric or something there, he is only probably killing 2-3 of those 8 spawns per cycle. You don't get to have spectre island as your camp. You could claim, say, the 2 southern spectres, so long as you engage them right after they spawn. But if you afk for a few minutes and one of them has been sitting there and someone else pulls it? They didn't steal your mob. You gave up your mob.

Is it pretty lame if a PLer starts pulling mobs that he knows you've been killing just because you're a minute slow on a pull? Yeah, pretty much. Is anything going to come of you being mad on the forums because something less than the entire population of p99 follows the code of etiquette that you think they should? Of course not.


Buck up and pull faster, or you're going to have an emotional breakdown when you get to KC.

[Splorf22]

Enchanters (blur/break charm) and mages (reclaim pet) can also PL. Paladins can tank, Rangers can be crappy druids, and SKs can fight/FD.

I would say the only classes that can't really PL are Rogues, Warriors, and Wizards.

[filthyphil]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, I get the feeling that quite a few people in this thread think that just because they say in ooc that certain mobs are "camped," that means that those mobs are off limits to everyone else because of some "I was here and I can use /ooc so therefore I win" mentality.


There are 7 (or 8?) spectres in oasis, on like 6ish minute respawns. If there is a 40-ish necro or cleric or something there, he is only probably killing 2-3 of those 8 spawns per cycle. You don't get to have spectre island as your camp. You could claim, say, the 2 southern spectres, so long as you engage them right after they spawn. But if you afk for a few minutes and one of them has been sitting there and someone else pulls it? They didn't steal your mob. You gave up your mob.

Is it pretty lame if a PLer starts pulling mobs that he knows you've been killing just because you're a minute slow on a pull? Yeah, pretty much. Is anything going to come of you being mad on the forums because something less than the entire population of p99 follows the code of etiquette that you think they should? Of course not.


Buck up and pull faster, or you're going to have an emotional breakdown when you get to KC.

You obviously didn't read my post. We agreed that 2 of the mobs spawning where to be mine, and he could have the other 2 on the ground, 5 in the tower. He then commenced to pull my only two mobs in the camp that I had been there doing for 2 hours before he arrived. I wasn't afk, I wasn't sitting there, He seen me approaching the mob and lifetapped its aggro on to him.

And since you obviously think this guy was free of any wrong-doing let me inform you that 30 or so minutes after posting, he attempted to train Cazel onto the spectre camp.

[Fryhole]

Originally Posted by Kratzy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, apparently there is no cap. I was always told a red is a red. Be it 10 levels above or 25 it was the same amount of "red" experience. But that doesn't appear to be how it works here.

As a Druid on live with lower lvl friends I can say with certainty there was an Exp cap on reds. (unless it was mob specific or something weird)
I know this server has the "prove it or shut it" mentality but I'm surprised this isn't a well known fact since boxing was allowed on live. Maybe this is why we don't see XP bonuses anymore.

[gloine36]

In this case the were plenty of specs for more than the two campers. Unfortunately, the individual camp stealer in question was unable to take the three specs at the top of the tower the previous night so that he could PL somebody. (58 necro...go figure). So the next day he showed up and just started to take any spawn he wanted so he could start advertising his PL services. I call that camp stealing. Had he asked we would have been happy to point out we had four specs we were not even capable to taking down, but apparently he was too lazy to take the tower specs.
Problem seemed to be resolved for a few hours and then he returned and attempted to run Cazel onto us but failed.
There is a problem here obviously.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by filthyphil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You obviously didn't read my post. We agreed that 2 of the mobs spawning where to be mine, and he could have the other 2 on the ground, 5 in the tower. He then commenced to pull my only two mobs in the camp that I had been there doing for 2 hours before he arrived. I wasn't afk, I wasn't sitting there, He seen me approaching the mob and lifetapped its aggro on to him.

And since you obviously think this guy was free of any wrong-doing let me inform you that 30 or so minutes after posting, he attempted to train Cazel onto the spectre camp.

I read your post. Apparently YOU haven't read the definition of camping as it applies on p99.

From the "Camps, Defined" thread in the forum's Library section: "Outdoor mobs on fast respawn such as HG and spectres, if you cannot engage immediately you do not hold the camp."

You basically needed to aggro "your" spectres before anyone else had a chance to in order for them to be yours.

Like I said, the guy didn't exactly sound like he was playing nice. But he also wasn't breaking any rules.

Him training Cazel is irrelevant to this discussion.

[gloine36]

Well Tecmos you weren't there so obviously you don't understand the details of the situation. He did break the rules and that's it. You're ignoring the part about selling PLing services and being a dickhead in the process which is part of what ruined Live.
The idea here is that there were plenty of specs but this guy chose to be a douche. He got called on it. If you want to support douche behavior, then go right ahead. I'll call it as it is.