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Old 04-08-2012, 10:05 AM
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He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday
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Old 04-08-2012, 11:10 AM
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I dont think its that big of an issue there's always haves and have nots in all mmo's . Yes it sucks for fresh players to try to play a tank class in this economy , and those people have a bitch, I guess , because it is tough if not impossible for a fresh untwinked warrior to hold aggro off the twinked to the max rogue , and the hybrid xp penalty is a bit daunting . But it was the same in live .

Most other classes function just fine without 10k+ in gear . My cleric whos 16 does just fine in most situations and is half geared with decent low to mid quality stuff . Theres just less and less tanks as I level , and thats an issue .

But really , I dont see how a few more rich guys are going to make that big of a difference ...I talk to more than a few new players to the server pretty regularly , and well most of us dont care about the rogue with the CoF and fungi tunic , maybe a little envious but thats about it .
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:06 PM
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He has no idea what he's talking about, just ingnore him. I've personally watched players walk onto the server fresh and within a few weeks become very successful traders with plenty of plat and items. I see plenty of good items going for reasonable prices everyday
Well it works for politicians, why not gamers too. Ignoring the obvious for personal gain / self interest that is.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:21 PM
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My cleric whos 16 does just fine in most situations
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:38 PM
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Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:44 PM
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sorry splorf its called a classic timeline


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Old 04-08-2012, 03:52 PM
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Sure, on the whole I think the server is better for just being 100% classic rather than making, say, the splorf changes that I would consider balanced rather than whatever changes you would consider balanced etc etc.
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Old 04-08-2012, 03:57 PM
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Ikon, people are laughing at you because you think you should be able to buy top-line raid gear at L20. Your L20 character already has gear that drops off of L50 mobs. Are you seriously complaining because you can't buy gear that drops from the highest level mobs in the game right now at L20? The mere fact that this gear is available at all is evidence that we have way more of a market here on P1999 than on Live.

P.S. +1 Loly. The real haves/havenots on this server are the ones that farmed gear that gets taken out, like the manastone, guise, prenerf Fungi staff, etc. If it were up to me these items would be either removed from day 1, left in place permanently, or moved to more challenging mobs, but not "lets leave the gear on the easy mobs and then take it away and screw over everyone who joined a little later".
I dont think u read my posts properly. Im not complaining Im commenting. I never said I should be able to get high end gear for my level 20, I said It looks like if I was level 60 and wanted to buy top droppable gear it would cost multi million. Theres a massive dif there.
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Old 04-08-2012, 05:08 PM
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And you are still wrong. IF I wanted to assemble the maximum droppable gear ranger (note that this includes God/Dragon loot which would never be available for sale on Live):

Tolan's BP 150k
Tolan's Legs 150k
Cloak of Flames 150k
NoS 40k
RBG 50k
Fingerbone Hoop: 20k
Enshrouded Veil: 10k
Other slots: 50k tops

= 620k

If you pass on the BP/Legs which aren't game changing items compared Thorny Vine and then get a Dark cloak of the Sky+RBB instead of the CoF/RBG, you can save yourself 400k. and get 99% of BiS effectiveness for 250k tops.

On the other hand, if you group in Sebilis/HS from 50+ your groups will be making 3kpp or more per hour. It takes maybe 30 hours of XP per level, so 300 hours x 500pp = 150k. So basically you would do it like every other ranger, buy the RBG/NoS and such and get the CoF + Tolans from raiding.

Of course the only guild that does Trakanon/VS right now is TMO, and the competition on the high end raid scene is ugly and fierce, but its far from impossible.
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Old 04-08-2012, 06:07 PM
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Ikon, I already established that you are, in fact, complaining. What you are doing (expressing discontent about a situation) is the exact, dictionary definition of the word.

Others AND I have established that you are greatly exaggerating the prices of items on the server and how difficult it is to make money by playing the market and how few people are buying and how rich how many people are.

Unless you want to do something other than keep COMPLAINING without basing your COMPLAINTS in FACT... shut teh hell ups.
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