Would you donate for a new blue server?

[Sampten]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think people comprehend the drawbacks of splitting blue's population.

It means it will be harder for people to find groups. This is going to prevent people who come on this server to try things out, from staying for any reasonable amount of time.

I get that some class R guilds still aren't happy with their free pixels that they weren't even getting before, but that seems like an awful reason to split this server's population.

If 'not getting enough mobs cuz TMO/IB gets most of them' is the primary motivation for a new server, wouldn't simply reducing all raid mob's spawn times in half be a better solution? Just a simple doubling of the total amount of raid content available. Seems like a far better solution to me that wouldn't involve turning both servers into servers not large enough to support lower level grouping at all levels.

Reducing respawn time doesn't resolve the issue, nor does adding Velious.

Reducing respawn rate just means that the guilds that can mobilize instantly will kill the mobs more often.

There's a reason why newer MMOs made zones instanced. It levels the playing field for the casual raiders and doesn't force the high end raiders to compete against one another.

If there were a zone to instance in the current P1999 environment, it would be VP. You'd instance that zone, and the rest of the mobs, for better or worse, become FFA.

Even then that's still not a solution. You can't get to VP without killing Trak. Guilds (C/R) would be fighting over Trak kills, not to mention all the other dragons.

Since you can't instance every zone, there's no real solution. You either have FFA or a rotation or something, but getting all parties to agree upon a solution will be practically impossible.

[haksum]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If 'not getting enough mobs cuz TMO/IB gets most of them' is the primary motivation for a new server, wouldn't simply reducing all raid mob's spawn times in half be a better solution? Just a simple doubling of the total amount of raid content available. Seems like a far better solution to me that wouldn't involve turning both servers into servers not large enough to support lower level grouping at all levels.

It doesn't matter. There's only a hand full of chronic complainers around here and they will never be satisfied. In the end these guys all want instances and either won't admit it or can't accept the fact that it's not going to happen here. You give them a little, they might shut up for a while but they will be back, because there will ALWAYS be some injustice against them.

Sure, they start a new rotation server, within a couple months they'll be bitching because there are too many guilds and want faster repops, and they'll want more rules or changes from the GM's, or they'll be bitching because the mobs on their rotation don't fit their time zone and they lose it after so many hours of not being killed and they have to wait another 3 months for another chance. I really don't know how the GM's/devs listen to this shit all day every day! Over and over the GM's say they want LESS workload and these people come up with every idea they can that creates more because they don't fully understand the consequences of their 'solutions'. Guess what a new server means....more staff or more responsibility on the current staff! Doesn't matter how you try to spin it. Splitting the pop with a new server is probably the worst idea out there.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by haksum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It doesn't matter. There's only a hand full of chronic complainers around here and they will never be satisfied. In the end these guys all want instances and either won't admit it or can't accept the fact that it's not going to happen here. You give them a little, they might shut up for a while but they will be back, because there will ALWAYS be some injustice against them.

Sure, they start a new rotation server, within a couple months they'll be bitching because there are too many guilds and want faster repops, and they'll want more rules or changes from the GM's, or they'll be bitching because the mobs on their rotation don't fit their time zone and they lose it after so many hours of not being killed and they have to wait another 3 months for another chance. I really don't know how the GM's/devs listen to this shit all day every day! Over and over the GM's say they want LESS workload and these people come up with every idea they can that creates more because they don't fully understand the consequences of their 'solutions'. Guess what a new server means....more staff or more responsibility on the current staff! Doesn't matter how you try to spin it. Splitting the pop with a new server is probably the worst idea out there.

How dare you try to use foresight in projecting the fallout from a server split.

[Aebriol1]

I would deff donate to this.. Coming from the Rathe Server on live, we had the Rathe Travel Agency... Life was good, rainbows brighter, and unicorns more magnificent.

[feanan]

Yeah, so far looks like 58 "complainers" huh.

Face it, the majority on this server are casual, and are sick of what TMO's/IB/whoever has turned this in to, and we are willing to pay real money to get away from you.

Says a lot, doesn't it?

So far, only negative reaction has been from TMO..guess they are scared of RMT drying up on them? Or perhaps its not as fun to be #1 on a server by yourself.

I, as do others, have multiple level 60's with hundreds of /played hours, and I'd give it all up to start
fresh on a rotation server with actual rules. I think that says a lot about the current state of things here.

[falkun]

Or the hardcore server shrivels up and dies because they can't recruit fast enough for the burn out, ala Daldaen. Then we're back to a single server again.

And complaining about workload...yesterday's Sirken broadcast was for VP (C-only), SolB (C-train by their own admission), and Seb (C-train by their own admission). It's not class-R that created that workload.

[toolshed]

The entire server is screwed up due to the elongated time line. I would support a new pvp server but I don't see how a new blue server solves the over farming of classic and kunark on blue

[kaev]

Voted yes. Would donate, subscribe to newsletter, & etc.

Since we're talking about something that isn't what our esteemed overlords are workng to create, and thus someting extremely unlikely ever to come about, my personal preferences:
- Fresh start, screw /movelog, 379 nerds in GFay opening night is incredibly fucking entertaining.
- Velious era (no unnerfed Donals, no guises, & etc.)
- No bag limit on FFA repops. Have an outlet for players who want to go all-out once in a while.


I am somewhat ambivalent tho. Cucs makes a powerful point, there is something to be said for jamming all the blue drama into one box.

[toolshed]

Originally Posted by feanan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah, so far looks like 58 "complainers" huh.

Face it, the majority on this server are casual, and are sick of what TMO's/IB/whoever has turned this in to, and we are willing to pay real money to get away from you.

Says a lot, doesn't it?

So far, only negative reaction has been from TMO..guess they are scared of RMT drying up on them? Or perhaps its not as fun to be #1 on a server by yourself.

I, as do others, have multiple level 60's with hundreds of /played hours, and I'd give it all up to start
fresh on a rotation server with actual rules. I think that says a lot about the current state of things here.

TMO players have completely changed their life to facilitate P99. People in that guild don't have jobs just so they can raid. People in that guild have not taken promotions so they can dedicate their time to P99

People in TMO use P99 as their only income stream.

Why would any of them want to give up P99? They've already given up their lives for P99

[Jfertal]

The only way this server would work is a /movelog, creating a fresh server would bring all sorts of trash back to p99. Perma farming guise, manastone etc. Shit was cool once, but not 3 times. Supposed to be a cleaner raid environment, not a chance for people to monopolize content like the current server.