People are so lazy in this game.

[Gloomlord]

But when being more efficient is simply pressing 2 more buttons, target cycle and a spell, and I'm made to look bad for wanting help to do my job, then I don't think the p99 community is as great as they say.

I mean, the community is "chill", but this reveals there is a darker side to that. Someone has to do the not so chill jobs of a group, and people don't care about what that person is responsible for.

I don't even think I'm a "super sweaty tryhard", either. You mock me for being a slave-driver, but you really need to check out other players in other games and their communities. I'm very much a "casual".

What I demanded from that paladin, and from other people I've played with, is pretty reasonable.

[shovelquest]

With pugs in this kind of game, sometimes you're gonna be in an amazing group, and sometimes you're going to be in a retarded one, but it's all part of the greater experience.

[Duik]

What I demanded from that paladin, and from other people I've played with, is pretty reasonable

There is ya problem right there.

[Gloomlord]

There is such a thing as a reasonable demand.

I'm not really put into a good position where I can be anything other than assertive.

[Jimjam]

You can politely ask and accept refusal as you ain’t owed chips.

[Gloomlord]

Not another one of these "you aren't owed x".

That hypocritical behaviour needs to stop. Yes, I am owed some help by a teammate when I pull.

[shovelquest]

This is just like an IRL debate!

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is such a thing as a reasonable demand.

I'm not really put into a good position where I can be anything other than assertive.

There is a reason why premade groups exist. If you want consistency and efficiency, you make a premade group. A lot of the players you want to play with aren't in PUGs because they have a premade group or trusted set of friends already. This is because they want efficiency and consistency.

Whenever I join a PUG I don't expect anything. If I want more efficiency in a PUG, I do the work to make that happen to the best of my abilities. You can't expect everybody to be in the mood to be efficient at all times in a PUG. If they wanted to be efficient, they would be soloing or in a premade.

[Gloomlord]

Perhaps.

To me, though, since EQ is such an easy game from a mechanical level, I don't see why it's such a chore for a lot of people.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Gloomlord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Perhaps.

To me, though, since EQ is such an easy game from a mechanical level, I don't see why it's such a chore for a lot of people.

There are quite a few P99 players who don't mind spending years slowly leveling their characters. That is one of the charms of P99. It's been around for 10+ years, so people don't feel rushed to get to the end. They can play slow, take a break, be lazy, and their characters will still be around next year.

P99 doesn't have timed incentives like other games, so people approach P99 differently than other games like the Diablo 2 ladder season. Some people play simply for nostalgia too.

I would consider looking for a premade group, or joining a high end raiding guild if you want more efficient groups consistently.