Patch Notes, Sunday July 24th, 2011

[Koa Bosk]

so how do we know what the max damage is. I was using a bow and it did way more dmg than then 20, and +3 for the arrows i was using.

[Troy]

cool story: I was wrong about the archery nerfs cutting dps by 50% - I just did a slightly more objective test and it seems the nerf has cut archery dps by roughly 75%.

I now take 4x longer to kill things than my already abysmally slow pre-patch rate. At this rate it will take 600 hours to solo the remaining 75% of level 54!

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Troy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cool story: I was wrong about the archery nerfs cutting dps by 50% - I just did a slightly more objective test and it seems the nerf has cut archery dps by roughly 75%.

I now take 4x longer to kill things than my already abysmally slow pre-patch rate. At this rate it will take 600 hours to solo the remaining 75% of level 54!

If you played a Ranger in the classic trilogy, you knew bows weren't worth breaking out for anything but pulling until Velious, and even then, for 2 mins every 72 mins and that was questionable. It was probably more efficient in Kunark to play druid and root/DoT with Drones of Doom and Immolate, and then realizing by the time you got Drones of Doom that your Conjuration skill was like 3, so you spent days spamming Dance of Fireflies like a tool... but even then only in outdoors zones at nighttime. Then in Velious, we got Panic Animal and everyone that hadn't deleted their rangers by then all went to Western Wastes to fearkite/melee mastadons and velium hounds or whatever. And if you were 60, you were better off saving your disc for Weaponshield on most encounters until Luclin AM3/EQ where ranger archery was clearly game-changing.

[Aadill]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

a fellow red-headed stepchild

:3

[Aadill]

Soz, not going to go into great detail over this but basically, that's just the way it will have to be in the scope of this server:

the majority of Rangers lose their role as a damage dealer class and are reduced back to the red-headed step-child class that they were in Kunark. No one wants to see that happen again.

It was pretty amazing the turn around the did on ranger bow damage.



Making bow damage worthwhile was the right thing to do though.

http://www.monkly-business.net/forum...ad.php?p=11131

[Troy]

So are these new changes (no dmg bonus and rarely hitting for even close to max dmg anymore) permanent for the life of the server?

[Aadill]

Pretty much. Archery was a joke until AAs. Hilariously enough I just read a bunch of rangers from live crying that their 50 damage arrows are expendable and no longer allow them to have an endless supply via Endless Quiver.

Boohoo.

[Troy]

Cool, 26 days /played wasted. Thanks for the info.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Troy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Cool, 26 days /played wasted. Thanks for the info.

You were gonna painfully arrow-kite solo until 60 and then what?

[Troy]

Originally Posted by YendorLootmonkey [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You were gonna painfully arrow-kite solo until 60 and then what?

It was just nice to have something semi-productive to do when LFG, i.e. 90% of the time. Or when interested in farming semi-decently for iksar bp/mask.

I never played a ranger in live and archery was incredibly slow here already but at least sort of bearable so I figured it was already classic. If I'd known that it was WAY WAY WAY WAY better than classic and due to be nerfed, I'd have quit the ranger awhile ago. I suppose it's my own fault for not doing the research.