WTS Plane of Hate : Loot Rights List

[botrainer]

Originally Posted by Fragged [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess it's in the eye of the beholder, what is the saying "a thief thinks everyone steals"? (English is not my native language).

It's a common misconception that raiders don't have jobs, almost all of us do. I myself am a lawyer, and I can tell you that if I needed help with rent, selling platinum in a 17 year old elf-simulator just wouldn't cut it.

Lol Aftermath members claiming to be attorney's yet find the time to randomly pop up into hate, in a 17 year old game, on a server that is trying to emulate that said zone in a state as it was sum 15 years ago to clear minis; day or night. That's a shame our attorney's actually worry themselves with these sorts of things. Oh, also finding time standing on "FTE lines" day and night, put in an overwhelming number of hours to get BIS items for months on end. No wonder our fucking justice system, it's laws, and whole governing body has gone to shit. They're on this emulation server rather than actually doing their jobs!

What will an Aftermath member say next!?

What it boils down to is this; stop being douche bags; let others clear hate; stop pulling over other raids; and stop acting like you guys don't play dirty to snipe mini's.

[Fragged]

Originally Posted by botrainer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Lol Aftermath members claiming to be attorney's yet find the time to randomly pop up into hate, in a 17 year old game, on a server that is trying to emulate that said zone in a state as it was sum 15 years ago to clear minis; day or night. That's a shame our attorney's actually worry themselves with these sorts of things. Oh, also finding time standing on "FTE lines" day and night, put in an overwhelming number of hours to get BIS items for months on end. No wonder our fucking justice system, it's laws, and whole governing body has gone to shit. They're on this emulation server rather than actually doing their jobs!

What will an Aftermath member say next!?

What it boils down to is this; stop being douche bags; let others clear hate; stop pulling over other raids; and stop acting like you guys don't play dirty to snipe mini's.

You seem like a nice person.

[Fifield]

ahhh the QQ is great, even got ol Botrainer to come and QQ .

P99 has never been about casuals getting epics/gear, if you want the earth staff so bad mages, form up a team and race these guys to the mini's, crying about it on the forums isnt going to get you anywhere.

On the trader side of things, i'd pay 4-500k anyday for a mage epic on p99. So free bump to your sales

[Maner]

Originally Posted by Thugnuts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What guild are you even talking about? There's people from multiple guilds weighing in here, and they're all saying the same thing about having their raids disrupted, getting trained, etc. I think you might have rezed me once, back in the day, that's true. How benevolent and gratious of you, permitting us to kill trash mobs while you snipe all the real targets, log out for 8 hours, and come back again.

Anyway, I hear what you're saying. Ten months ago it was a mostly DIFFERENT group of Aftermath scumbags doing the same thing that other Aftermath scumbags are still doing today, so it's A-OK. Gotcha.

I've said what I wanted to say here. You can resume your auction now, congrats on your Earth staff. $3 per 1k, that's $1500 you guys can cash out in your RMT money laundering operation.

I haven't been in hate in months actually, if you could take the time to get a clue and comprehend what I wrote. Shit there were times that we would be clearing hate with 3-4 people for 9+ hours for the hell of it, finding out every possible ph, and farming 2nd floor drops for alts. It's really a shame that you feel so entitled that you blame the people killing place holders for showing up to kill the named spawns 8 hours later.

While I was personally up there it was mostly clue and fires of heaven that would show up and try to contest. The funny thing is that they would usually start porting up after the group I was with had already been on killing stuff for 4+ hours. Those minis you are going after wouldn't even be up if these groups weren't killing the phs. I mean you know how the hate minis work right? You call people scumbags because they can do something you can't and you're upset about it?

Funny that you accuse others of RMT while you're the one quoting exchange rates. Perhaps the gms should look into your account a little more closely. If you actually understood how they are farming it, you would realize your claims of BiS fear making it possible are laughable. Necro shm monk or chanter shm monk is all you need to clear hate.

The prices are too high, with that said, why you no invite me Uyan?

[Ella`Ella]

Originally Posted by Fifield [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ahhh the QQ is great, even got ol Botrainer to come and QQ .

P99 has never been about casuals getting epics/gear, if you want the earth staff so bad mages, form up a team and race these guys to the mini's, crying about it on the forums isnt going to get you anywhere.

On the trader side of things, i'd pay 4-500k anyday for a mage epic on p99. So free bump to your sales

For what's it worth - Earth Staff used to sell for 900k-1.2M plat. The fact that this service exists has dropped the price by ~50% making it far more accessible to players than it ever was.

[BallzDeep]

I thought the point of a no drop item is that it isn't supposed to be sold. Good thing greedy bastards figured out a long time ago that you can still manipulate that somehow.

I mean you know how the hate minis work right? You call people scumbags because they can do something you can't and you're upset about it?

Sums up this thread. Elitists with Dunning-Krueger feel other people "can't" sit on a video game for extended periods of time. You'd probably be right because most of us aren't "lawyers."

The answers are:
Is what they are doing ok to P99 staff? Yes
Are they probably greedy assholes looking to RMT? Yes, see redguides.
Should these items be sold? Probably not.


There are so many other ways to farm platinum other than selling no drops. This screams RMT. BTW I'm in none of these guilds, just like calling out RMTers when I see them.

[TripleLegit]

Judging by the comments on this thread I am significantly less excited to try my hand at raiding on this server.

[Ella`Ella]

I hardly think this reeks of RMT. Consider the only real expensive item here is the Earth Staff MQ, which they might average a couple of those a month, plus how illiquid the item is (not a lot of people throwing 500k around to buy it).

Also consider they are probably having to split the proceeds 5-6 ways depending on group size. If one of every single item they have listed drops except the Earth Staff they're only making about 100k each. And, the odds of all of those items dropping in a single week aren't that high. Also, you'll need to consider that they would have to have a buyer lined up and available to sell some of the more expensive items (Encyclopedia, Rakusa Cloak, Hate Crystal, etc...)

It's probably not much more profitable on average than camping fungi king for days on end.

[Nixtar]

Originally Posted by TripleLegit [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Judging by the comments on this thread I am significantly less excited to try my hand at raiding on this server.

That's the desired effect.

But who are we to question these neckbearded gods of Doritos and Mountain Dew? Clearly, these acts of benevolence, shielding us from the Plane of Hate, is for our own good! Indeed, we should shower them in earthly currency in hopes for their divine rewards.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by BallzDeep [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I thought the point of a no drop item is that it isn't supposed to be sold. Good thing greedy bastards figured out a long time ago that you can still manipulate that somehow.



Sums up this thread. Elitists with Dunning-Krueger feel other people "can't" sit on a video game for extended periods of time. You'd probably be right because most of us aren't "lawyers."

The answers are:
Is what they are doing ok to P99 staff? Yes
Are they probably greedy assholes looking to RMT? Yes, see redguides.
Should these items be sold? Probably not.


There are so many other ways to farm platinum other than selling no drops. This screams RMT. BTW I'm in none of these guilds, just like calling out RMTers when I see them.

Understanding how the mobs you are going after work and how to spawn them isn't being elitist. The minis all have phs and different places that they can spawn. The respawn on those place holders is 8 hours. How often doesclue go up to hate to clear out those place holders? Or do they just have a tracker that sees a magi is up after another group took the time to clear the placeholders?

Seems really petty to be upset at the people reaping the benefits of spending hours clearing place holders just because they spawned a named you want. Seems like the only reason you think they are RMTing is because you personally couldn't afford what you want. Making ignorant assumptions from a place of ignorance just confirms that you're butt hurt.