New Raid Rules question - how would "unguilded" pickup raids be handled?

[tristantio]

Will we be keeping track of engagement timers on a per character basis?

Will the timer be related to the guild you're in when the mob is engaged, or when your kill is in review?

For instance, say that some guild has 20 members leave the guild for a kill, then rejoin (or join an entirely new or rival guild after) - who is locked out?

[Erati]

Id assume if u dont belong to a guild then just THAT character is locked out

[Velerin]

What if someone leaves guild A then gets invited into a guild B midfight then deguilds then gets invited into guild C but then guild D kills the mob?

Maybe we should stop trying to find loopholes and just make it work?

How many unguilded pickup raids have killed any high level raid mob on this server ever?

[Aaron]

People trying to skirt rules like this should just be suspended for a a good length of time. Instead of making a rule for every single instance that can happen, players should just be punished when they try to pull bullshit.

You know if you're doing something against the spirit of the rules. Just don't do it.

[baalzy]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People trying to skirt rules like this should just be suspended for a a good length of time. Instead of making a rule for every single instance that can happen, players should just be punished when they try to pull bullshit.

You know if you're doing something against the spirit of the rules. Just don't do it.

[YendorLootmonkey]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People trying to skirt rules like this should just be suspended for a a good length of time. Instead of making a rule for every single instance that can happen, players should just be punished when they try to pull bullshit.

You know if you're doing something against the spirit of the rules. Just don't do it.

This. No one ever seemed interested in pickup raids for anything other than planes clears and maybe Naggy/Vox until these raid rules got finalized. STOP. RULES. LAWYERING.

[myxomatosii]

Ok but no, what if I'm in a raid and just before the mob dies I turn my head and cover my eyes. Then I'm not locked out right? I assume this is an Indiana Jones Arc of the Covenant type of thing.

As long as this is fine I have no qualms with the new system.

[JayN]

Originally Posted by Aaron [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People trying to skirt rules like this should just be suspended for a a good length of time. Instead of making a rule for every single instance that can happen, players should just be punished when they try to pull bullshit.

You know if you're doing something against the spirit of the rules. Just don't do it.

And who'm will police everyone every raid? Good luck, unless GM's watch every raid or set up a dynamic to track things like these concerns

[Aaron]

Originally Posted by JayN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And who'm will police everyone every raid? Good luck, unless GM's watch every raid or set up a dynamic to track things like these concerns

Every raid doesn't need to be policed. Why would you think that?

There are enough hall monitors on this server that people finding loopholes will be outed eventually without the need for some sort of task force.

[fadetree]

You know if you're doing something against the spirit of the rules. Just don't do it.

Okie dokie. Good suggestion! I'm sure this will work.