The Deru' Plan C discussion

[W8Gamer]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know it doesnt make you special? None of these pixels matter. Putting a ton of "effort" in this game is meaningless as your existence.


But good job getting into TMO!

I agree with you 100%. None of my EQ achievements make me special. However, that was not the purpose of my post. The purpose of both my posts was to kill the same tired arguments I hear about how TMO doesn't need anything for their mains and also how not everyone can be "basement dwelling no-lifes" like most of us in TMO. And since you provided no kind of argument or rebuttle and resulted into belittling me in some fashion, I can only assume my post did exactly what I intended. In other words, I think I won this round of forumquest? I dunno, I don't do this often.

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Because the competition makes the win far better.

Tell me why you need to do anything on a 14 year old game or taking down mobs where the strategy has been PERFECTED over that time and is known by all?


Its not competing against the content that is fun or challenging, its competing against other humans to get to the content that is fun and challenging.

May of us aren't here in search of competition nor challenge. Personally, I play P99 and it's like reading an old book. It is an exercise in nostalgia. Similarly, I do not play Zelda with the intent to dominate its content. I am not running fast as I can through Marioland. I am sitting down and getting reacquainted with an old friend.

The question is: why is this the arena you've selected to feel a sense of accomplishment? Frankly, any victory won on P99 is likely to be a Pyrrhic one.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know it doesnt make you special? None of these pixels matter. Putting a ton of "effort" in this game is meaningless as your existence.


But good job getting into TMO!

Existence is as meaningless as your opinion of others or what they do with their time.

Nihilism is never a productive outlook.

[Elmarnieh]

Originally Posted by Barkingturtle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

May of us aren't here in search of competition nor challenge. Personally, I play P99 and it's like reading an old book. It is an exercise in nostalgia. Similarly, I do not play Zelda with the intent to dominate its content. I am not running fast as I can through Marioland. I am sitting down and getting reacquainted with an old friend.

The question is: why is this the arena you've selected to feel a sense of accomplishment? Frankly, any victory won on P99 is likely to be a Pyrrhic one.

False premise. It isn't the content that is a challenge its the competition to the content agaisnt other humans.

False premise. It may not be a sense of accomplishment that is felt.

As to why it is an arena I choose to enjoy to spend my time - any answer I give is as valid as your enjoyment of reliving it like an old book as both are personally subjective.

[falkun]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False premise. It isn't the content that is a challenge its the competition to the content agaisnt other humans.

Emphasis mine.

This is why R99 exists. I've even heard you can attack the other humans over there. If you really wanted the challenge of mobilizing, log out in Qeynos every time.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You know it doesnt make you special? None of these pixels matter. Putting a ton of "effort" in this game is meaningless as your existence.


But good job getting into TMO!

first of rad i think how everyone enjoy his existence is their own bussynes ,and no one should complain how they spend his time in a game and how they enjoy it while it dont break some rules .

there is people who pays shit tons of rl money for shit like a tiger woods golf stick and other things someone may thing is stupid,

its their time their money , while they dont club you with the stick its their own bussynes imo.

who give u a morality superiority to claim whatever u think is better over lestet decission to raid to achieve loots wich would make his play time better for him.

Because if he wanted it he would have to earn and figth for it , no one would gift it to him.


in everquest if u wanted xx item either u raid or eithe r u buyed it or either u camped it, im talking raid goods or any item in general.

do you see alot of people in lower guk figthing to get in groups for a fbss chance like in live ? no u see most times a single dude farming it.

whats is that different of raidin? because u do it with more people than the effort of a singl e dude spendin hours and hours camping the same shit and blocking other people from gettin it?.


Thats everquest man .
thats the reason slowly everquest turned most shit no drop so people would need to raid and earn their shit instead to farm shit and bazaar forever .

[Barkingturtle]

Originally Posted by Elmarnieh [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

False premise. It isn't the content that is a challenge its the competition to the content agaisnt other humans.

False premise. It may not be a sense of accomplishment that is felt.

As to why it is an arena I choose to enjoy to spend my time - any answer I give is as valid as your enjoyment of reliving it like an old book as both are personally subjective.

So you're competing, but not for a sense of accomplishment? Are you competing merely to deny others their gratification?

Not sure my mind is limber enough for your mental gymnastics, but feel free to turn some more cartwheels.

And I didn't ask why it's an arena in which you "spend your time". I asked why you find it a suitable outlet for your competitiveness. I can understand why people want to play on Project99, but I can't imagine why anyone would yearn to prove they're the best at playing Project99.

[radditsu]

Originally Posted by Arteker [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

first of rad i think how everyone enjoy his existence is their own bussynes ,and no one should complain how they spend his time in a game and how they enjoy it while it dont break some rules .

there is people who pays shit tons of rl money for shit like a tiger woods golf stick and other things someone may thing is stupid,

its their time their money , while they dont club you with the stick its their own bussynes imo.

who give u a morality superiority to claim whatever u think is better over lestet decission to raid to achieve loots wich would make his play time better for him.

Because if he wanted it he would have to earn and figth for it , no one would gift it to him.


in everquest if u wanted xx item either u raid or eithe r u buyed it or either u camped it, im talking raid goods or any item in general.

do you see alot of people in lower guk figthing to get in groups for a fbss chance like in live ? no u see most times a single dude farming it.

whats is that different of raidin? because u do it with more people than the effort of a singl e dude spendin hours and hours camping the same shit and blocking other people from gettin it?.


Thats everquest man .
thats the reason slowly everquest turned most shit no drop so people would need to raid and earn their shit instead to farm shit and bazaar forever .

I have no idea what you are trying to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW27kyh7PVM

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by falkun [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Emphasis mine.

This is why R99 exists. I've even heard you can attack the other humans over there. If you really wanted the challenge of mobilizing, log out in Qeynos every time.

well honestly DJ some of my long eq career disguting shit have happened into this server .

when someone of my guild coldblooded pic in rnf to mock her i found it a realy shitty thing and prety much soemthing only a coward and a moron would do.


i want a fair competition btw guilds not it going to rl and other no ingame stuff.

sure u can hate xxx player for his actions in game xxxx but realy u need to get rl on it?.


i think p99 need a tabula rasa scenario witha total rebuild of raidin rules , and server stanced towards it .

then pherhaps we can figure a raid schedule but till the guilds can elarn to exit together without bashing and instead trying to get some fun racin in a civilized way this will not happen.

[Arteker]

Originally Posted by radditsu [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have no idea what you are trying to say:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VW27kyh7PVM

dont worry im used to it .