Enchanter charm isn't classic, we all know this

[sentinel]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

youll thank me someday

Agreed, but that day is today. Thank you for bumping this to the top.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by bubur [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

just trying to do my part and keep it from devolving into an echo chamber of unclassic nonsense devoid of evidence and based on the same few people circlejerking about a few hypothetical situations and actually just straight up wrong information

youll thank me someday

If shit like bard aoe'n is nerfed then there is no reason whatsoever that charm shouldn't be nerfed. Chanters being able to solo and duo camps meant for full or near full groups is absurd. Chanters doing half a raids DPS with a single pet is retarded. The spell is in BLATANT need of a nerf. You should not be able to charm a dar ghoul or a protector imp or any other absurdly high powered pet.

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If shit like bard aoe'n is nerfed then there is no reason whatsoever that charm shouldn't be nerfed. Chanters being able to solo and duo camps meant for full or near full groups is absurd. Chanters doing half a raids DPS with a single pet is retarded. The spell is in BLATANT need of a nerf. You should not be able to charm a dar ghoul or a protector imp or any other absurdly high powered pet.

Look I want classic Everquest not World of Warcraft. Cause if they nerf that then what's next, making it so bards can only hit 4 mobs? Lol. No thanks. Keep it classic.

[ArunaGreen]

Originally Posted by Hazek [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look I want classic Everquest not World of Warcraft. Cause if they nerf that then what's next, making it so bards can only hit 4 mobs? Lol. No thanks. Keep it classic.

So making enchanters less powerful than an entire high end max level group combined is making the game into WoW? You're a fucking retard lol. Also, bards can currently only hit 4 mobs and that's honestly how it should remain. Being able to solo an entire zone is fucking stupid.

[bubur]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're a fucking retard lol.

here's where you lose me.

chanter nerfs? fine. present the evidence and post it. i also dont remember charm being widely used in classic. i have my opinions about why that is, which i posted 40-somethin pages ago and no one cares what i think

but flailing around and trying to bully people into your perspective before you do any actual research or lift a finger to prove your point? naw gtfo

[Hazek]

Originally Posted by ArunaGreen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So making enchanters less powerful than an entire high end max level group combined is making the game into WoW? You're a fucking retard lol.

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Also, bards can currently only hit 4 mobs and that's honestly how it should remain. Being able to solo an entire zone is fucking stupid.

Charm breaking early is stupid and it should remain as it is.

Big swarms were high risk that took lots of skill and time to complete. One mistake, including lag, was death. It was also done in obscure zones like FV and Burning Woods with plenty of other places to level (and extra mobs that don't get pulled).

[Nirgon]

Add bard to list of things toxic bluebies ruined

Good reminder

[Not_Mikeo]

Didn’t they find evidence to nerf boards for green?

Edit: https://www.project1999.com/forums/s...d.php?t=334283

That was it I guess.

[this user was banned]

Bards taking an entire leveling zone for themselves in one pull was pretty busted.

[ArunaGreen]

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Bards taking an entire leveling zone for themselves in one pull was pretty busted.

Ya and so is duoing ghoul lord and arch magus with ease as a 50 chanter. No class even comes remotely close to what a chanter is capable of except for necro's in undead zones. Neither of these classes should have such a massive degree of power over everyone else. You shouldn't be able to charm a pet that is stronger than a max level tank with all BiS gear that is also simultaneously better at dps than a max level DPS class with all BiS gear. How anyone can even argue that this should remain in game is fucking mind boggling. It should have been nerfed 10 years ago.