no global ooc in offpeak killed the game

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by Maggok [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

hmmmm was actual sitting 3 hours sitting /LFG today. and yes, i did /who all lfg and /who all *Zonename*..... and tried up to build a group

during the peak-times, this would work, but when only a few people in the range of lvl 20 - 30 are LFG - u ve no chance to build up a group. as a casual / player with familiy / player with long working-times the actual situation is realy disappointing. oh yes, "its classic" - how could i forget that - so it must be gold, or?

btw. we r doing lots of polls - may be, we should do a poll, how many time each of us can play per day during a normal week - than we would see, if 1 or 2 hours time to find/build up a group, like today its often the case, is the thing we should working for...

Greetings, maggok

So you pick a zone, sit at the zone-in and spam /shout LFG until a spot opens up. That's how it was done 11 years ago. That's how it's done today.

Geez, serverwide chat spoiled so many people.

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you pick a zone, sit at the zone-in and spam /shout LFG until a spot opens up. That's how it was done 11 years ago. That's how it's done today.

Geez, serverwide chat spoiled so many people.

done that, dosent work... you guys who play peak times have it nice and you actually have NO idea how bad it gets during off peak times.

sure when a zone is rammed full during peak you can sit there and spam LFG and something will pop up cause the turnover in a group is generally pretty good, people going having dinner, going to sleep and what not.

in offpeak times youre lucky if you have only one group going in the zone, they are all locked in and just doing their thing.

as i have said, i have spent 10+ hours multiple days where i have been ACTIVELY looking group (doing the / all shit blah blah blah) spamming in zones n shit.

its not viable during offpeak, period.

and this is a perfect example of people being selfish twits. it works all good for them cause they only play when 600 - 700 online. they arent the ones who have to play with 150 - 200.. so they couldnt care less. as long as its good for them they'll just shut everyone else down.

[Mleh]

Just a quick 2 cents, when I logged on P1999 for the first time, and saw global ooc/auction I thought "Wow this is ridiculous this entire client is probably new eq crap", As I played more and more I relised how much effort had been put into removing handicaps and I appreciated the game more.

QQ.

[Omnimorph]

Originally Posted by eqdruid76 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So you pick a zone, sit at the zone-in and spam /shout LFG until a spot opens up. That's how it was done 11 years ago. That's how it's done today.

Geez, serverwide chat spoiled so many people.

Or you form your own group.

[eqdruid76]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

done that, dosent work... you guys who play peak times have it nice and you actually have NO idea how bad it gets during off peak times.

sure when a zone is rammed full during peak you can sit there and spam LFG and something will pop up cause the turnover in a group is generally pretty good, people going having dinner, going to sleep and what not.

in offpeak times youre lucky if you have only one group going in the zone, they are all locked in and just doing their thing.

as i have said, i have spent 10+ hours multiple days where i have been ACTIVELY looking group (doing the / all shit blah blah blah) spamming in zones n shit.

its not viable during offpeak, period.

and this is a perfect example of people being selfish twits. it works all good for them cause they only play when 600 - 700 online. they arent the ones who have to play with 150 - 200.. so they couldnt care less. as long as its good for them they'll just shut everyone else down.

You're doing it wrong.

Classic Everquest is a game of patience. It's SUPPOSED to be a challenge to find a competent group, advance, and get loot. It's time to take off the diapers, remove the training wheels, stop complaining and learn how to play the game. Join a freaking guild. And if you're already in one, and there's never anyone on, join a bigger guild. Guildies who are never on can't say too much about you doing so.

You're whining about the loss of the ease of grouping as it existed on live in 2006. This isn't Project 2006, it's Project 1999, where finding a group, finding upgrades, and selling your wares is supposed to emulate live in 1999 as much as the mechanics, graphics and content. And Classic Everquest was not a game for whiney people who needed someone else to hold their hand and play the game for them.

Serverwide chat is not going to be reinstated just because you refuse to adapt, do the footwork, make the contacts, establish the rapport, and participate in the same game the majority of us experienced, remember, and are glad to see again.

There is absolutely no reason you can't find a group at any hour of the day, other than you're just not trying hard enough. I understand your hesitation..."what if I go all the way to Guk, spend 2 hours /lfg, finally get in a group that wipes and disbands after 3 pulls, and spend 2 more hours doing a CR?"...Reality check: this occurs thousands of times a day to ALL players, regardless of time zone. That's the challenge of this game. Anyone can log on, push 3 buttons for 6 hours and gain a level. Finding 5 other players who don't suck is the challenge. And it's an even bigger challenge during peak hours. When in a group, you're only as good as the other people in the party.

If you want an easy game, I encourage you to man up, pay the 15 bucks a month, and log into Live. You don't need to find a group there anymore, and you'll be afk selling thousands of plat worth of gear in less than 2 weeks. There is absolutely no challenge left in the live game. That's why server populations are so low. That's why servers are merging. Right now, on the Luclin/Veeshan server, there are less than 1000 characters online. At least 500 of those characters are /afk in the Bazaar. The majority of the at the keyboard players are multi-boxing.

There are more active players on Project1999 at this very moment than there are on any one live server. That should tell you something. We're not here for the ease of play, or the instant gratification of uber gear by level 10 or automatically being level 51. We're here to play Everquest, as it was designed at its inception, where players had to actively research and socialize to advance.

Welcome to Everquest. You're in our world now.

[nicemace]

youre just flat out wrong, i know its meant to be hard blah blah blah. and it is hard to find solid groups even during peak times.

we are talking about offpeak times when groups are virtually non-existent.. currently at this very moment i think there are around 150 logged in.. of that 150 there are currently 45 in perma camping vox, so there is only 105 players with a level range of 50 for people to group with. and i bet a lot of them would be afk sleepers too.

there is absolutely nothing i have done wrong, its just theres no one around.

i myself dont have an issue. i solo'd my last lvls from 40 to 50, as i did with most my levels prior to that. gg charm. but i can understand what it is like for the other players who cant solo.

i played 9 straight years on live, no need to go back, im here for the classic raid content, not the current on live.

[Uaellaen]

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[SpartanEQ]

Originally Posted by nicemace [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

youre just flat out wrong, i know its meant to be hard blah blah blah. and it is hard to find solid groups even during peak times.

we are talking about offpeak times when groups are virtually non-existent.. currently at this very moment i think there are around 150 logged in.. of that 150 there are currently 45 in perma camping vox, so there is only 105 players with a level range of 50 for people to group with. and i bet a lot of them would be afk sleepers too.

there is absolutely nothing i have done wrong, its just theres no one around.

i myself dont have an issue. i solo'd my last lvls from 40 to 50, as i did with most my levels prior to that. gg charm. but i can understand what it is like for the other players who cant solo.

i played 9 straight years on live, no need to go back, im here for the classic raid content, not the current on live.

If you are here for raid content, are you in a guild? If you're in a guild, is it a guild that is from your timezone? If you're in a guild that is from you're timezone, can you not communicate globally with your guild and form groups that way?

If you're not in a guild, how do you expect to raid? I don't know what level you are or anything so I'm just asking out of curiosity. Please understand, I'm not criticizing you.

[slayith]

Never was the pop this low on live in the middle of the night, as there were far more Europeans playing on the live servers as i remember.

Before i start, I am a mage that doesn't need gear or groups to have fun. That being said global ooc and EC tunnel do not affect me in the slightest. Still i cant help but feel utterly sadface for all the kiwi/Aussie melee players.

One can use all of the regular channels; actively /LFG on /who "classname" ect. with no luck for weeks on end. Live would have its bad days anyone that was there can attest to that. This is not an issue of putting in the work, or sucking it up and learning, as many of you seem to think it is, this is an issue of there not being enough population at those hours that there is no group turnover, and the only available groups would be the 1 random person here or there that a global ooc would reach.
Before you all flame for having an opinion that differs from only 50% of you and the devs, you should only try to play during the low pop and see how "exactly" like live it seems to you again.
If you play those twilight hours and you cannot solo good luck. There is NO guild with populations on high enough to support leveling all ranges, other than a bunch of 50's rotation camping some rare spawn. Checking all the areas with people in them will not get a group. These people are spending ALL of the play time every night to accomplish nothing, even though they use all the available in-game means of finding a group. The only surefire cure is to tell them sorry, you have to wake up and play in the middle of your night.


As a side note the world seems empty unless you go to a handful of zones, but at least you don't have to hide ooc anymore.

Its just my opinion no "sky falling" prediction crap. I thank the devs for all the effort they place into project1999. Just like live there will be changes i like and changes i hate, and i will roll with the punches.

[nicemace]

Originally Posted by SpartanEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you are here for raid content, are you in a guild? If you're in a guild, is it a guild that is from your timezone? If you're in a guild that is from you're timezone, can you not communicate globally with your guild and form groups that way?

If you're not in a guild, how do you expect to raid? I don't know what level you are or anything so I'm just asking out of curiosity. Please understand, I'm not criticizing you.

are you in a guild: not currently no, am apping as i have just hit 50.

is the guild from my timezone: no, im neither US or euro timezone, im in the middle, so i have apped to US guild... but still play a lot of offpeak too.

3rd question: no groups needed, im lvl 50.

if im not in a guild how do i expect to raid?: to app to a good raiding guild now im lvl 50 which i did most of solo.

as ive said, i dont have any issues, ill always make sure i have a way to play by myself because thats the most reliable way for me to be efficient... but not everyone plays classes like mine (ENCH).

so im one of the few people who can actually understand what others are going through and not just thinking about themselves.