Tab targeting has been silently removed...

[Daldaen]

It’s important to distinctly describe the four methods of keyboard targetting NPCs.

F8 - Target Nearest - This is classic and will target the first NPC entity directly ahead of your characters current bearing.

Tab - Swap Target - This is classic and will swap between targeting yourself and your last non-self target. It’s very useful to keep tabs on a tank not in your group on raids or to keep track of a charmed pet or an NPC during an escort part of a quest.

/target name - Type Target - Unsure on classicness but it exists here and allows you to Target an NPC or PC near you by typing out all or part of the name of the NPC. Previously you could target with NPC ID numbers to identify placeholders but I believe they nerfed that properly but you should still be able to /Target Lord_Nagafen.

Cycle Target - This is confirmed not classic and allowed you to cycle between NPCs 1-10 and then start over at 1 again. This makes many game functions like Crowd Control and DS powerleveling extremely trivial as you can seemlessly target every mob in a crowd one by one without getting the same target twice. It is good they remove this because with it in there is a lot of power gained by CC classes that they should not have by being able to quickly lock down a big train. You should need to fumble with your mouse or continually reposition yourself and try F8 to get a proper Target.

If Tab Targeting was indeed removed it should be reinstated. But it sounds like they removed Cycle targetting which is Classic and a good fix.

[Kinaki]

You're confused. But whatever. This server has nothing to do with classic so one more random change means nothing. Your "cycle target" was live during velious.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Kinaki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This server has nothing to do with classic

LoL! What?!

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Kinaki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're confused. But whatever. This server has nothing to do with classic so one more random change means nothing. Your "cycle target" was live during velious.

I’m not. It most definitely wasn’t available in Velious. Tab Targetting was though.

April 2004 Patch

You can now set hot keys to cycle through targets!

Druids Grove, July 2004

Vekx
07-20-2004, 02:57 PM
I thought I saw a 'how to' for making a cycle target key when this option came out but can't seem to find it. If I remember correctly you had to chose a letter key which was annoying to me. Anyway... can anyone give some semi detailed instructions please?

Tiane
07-20-2004, 05:58 PM
Doesnt have to be a letter. All you need to do is press Alt-O to go into options in game, click the keyboard tab. Click the pull down thingy and select targetting. In the window, you should see Cycle Targets with no key assigned. Just click on it and then press they key you want to use. 8)

Secrets Herself

Originally Posted by Secrets [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not classic. This functionality was added in late 2003.

Here's a screenshot from the EQMac Windows client, circa January 15, 2003:

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[Vx36]

Originally Posted by bradsamma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it wasn't in since the start then fine but removing this targetting system is ridiculous.

What does anything being there from the start have to do with it? Do you guys know what website you are on?

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s important to distinctly describe the four methods of keyboard targetting NPCs.

F8 - Target Nearest - This is classic and will target the first NPC entity directly ahead of your characters current bearing.

Tab - Swap Target - This is classic and will swap between targeting yourself and your last non-self target. It’s very useful to keep tabs on a tank not in your group on raids or to keep track of a charmed pet or an NPC during an escort part of a quest.

/target name - Type Target - Unsure on classicness but it exists here and allows you to Target an NPC or PC near you by typing out all or part of the name of the NPC. Previously you could target with NPC ID numbers to identify placeholders but I believe they nerfed that properly but you should still be able to /Target Lord_Nagafen.

Cycle Target - This is confirmed not classic and allowed you to cycle between NPCs 1-10 and then start over at 1 again. This makes many game functions like Crowd Control and DS powerleveling extremely trivial as you can seemlessly target every mob in a crowd one by one without getting the same target twice. It is good they remove this because with it in there is a lot of power gained by CC classes that they should not have by being able to quickly lock down a big train. You should need to fumble with your mouse or continually reposition yourself and try F8 to get a proper Target.

If Tab Targeting was indeed removed it should be reinstated. But it sounds like they removed Cycle targetting which is Classic and a good fix.

Great write-up Dald! I made a wiki page out of it (and added mouse click targeting and /assist): http://wiki.project1999.com/Targeting

P.S. Also the wiki has patch notes now: no need to link to that Japanese site (or anywhere else).

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Vx36 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What does tab targeting being there from the start have anything to do with it? Do you guys know what website you are on?

New skeleton models, new wolf models, starting city maps, translocators ....

These are just some of the non-classic things that I can remember off hand that were in the game at launch, but weren't intended to be in there. The devs worked hard to get this project on point, and they are getting it there. I think some of the later players just do not know what the original vision of this project is.

[Chortles Snort|eS]

Yes every1
LetS taKe the BronY/DolaN OP srSLy

(not)

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[Kinaki]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Snip]

As I said previously, Tabbing through npcs was at the very least Velious, if not classic; cycling through PCs was added during PoP (possibly as late as LDoN, but in NOWAY as late as your 2004 blurb). How do I know this? Because I played then and have distinct memories of trying it for the first time during the Gods phase of PoTime. That's why I say possibly as late as LDoN - because it was the last expansion a top tier guild would still be farming PoTime. This was PCs however; NPCs had long since been in game.

Your supposed evidence to the contrary does nothing but quote the ability to (re)assign hotkeys and queries by random people asking for help at <insert a random point in time>.

[Daldaen]

See Secrets quote from the EQMac client which was the base game client from PoP. There was no Cycle NPC hotkey back then. You are mistaken.

It’s natural for memories that are nearly 18 years old to be faulty especially when you currently play P99 and mix in your current experiences with the memories from the past. This is why player memories aren’t used as evidence to change things in classicquest.