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Old 05-11-2017, 11:19 PM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:20 AM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once. Hokushin would spend more time than that when he played. I think the longest I did in Velious personally was 11 hours the first week of races. Fifield was there the entire time too. Nalken has put in some pretty insane hours as well. Detoxx too.

After that first week of racing in ToV I was pretty much done though with raiding. While racing can be fun if spawns happen quickly. It just burns out people long term. When I saw Velious take the same path Kunark did (FTE insta pull>Mage Cothing>Racing) but at a quicker rate that is when I was really done with raiding here. Because the environment does a lot of things to people.

1. It makes you resent guildies who don't put in the same effort.
2. It makes people angry at the runners when they don't get a perceived amount of FTEs. Which in turn makes the FTE runners resent the other guildies more for complaining.
3. It burns out your guild and forces you to recruit heavily for fresh people to do the running.
4. It makes you hate the people you are competing against because of all the work it takes so every little thing that goes wrong gets magnified. So guilds competing with each other just hate each other for no reason outside of you both are trying to do the same thing.
This is well-put and explains a lot.

So, is there a way to improve the raiding on p99, or is this the best it can get?
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:20 PM
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Yep not true at all. On weekends a lot of people spend over 10 hours tracking. I know back in Kunark I put in 18 hours in a row once
I actually saved a quote you made during Kunark saying how we were going to get "dominated in Velious," just to give me a little motivation to kick that ass. Thanks for that [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 05-11-2017, 08:54 PM
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Bunch of casuals. It was way funner after that original Nagafen AW suspension. A brilliant plan to spread raid timers out over around a week was enacted by AM. 16 hours? Bah you aren't really getting to the fun part of raiding until you've tracked the same screeenshares for 30-40 hours straight or made a pet track hotkey Jarekn tells you,'Attacking Vulak Master. That you mash once a millisecond.

It's been amusing over the years to see how much end game scene has improved immensely yet the crying never stops. You are in a world with limited resources even with strict rotations you may never get that coveted item you desire. That's EQ and what makes it so great is it really feels like a living world. You make of it what you will and some sit for years occasionally nabbing some top gear here and there in casual guilds. On the other flip side there are those who recognize that in a system made up of limited resources if you want the best stuff you will have to put in the effort to obtain it. Especially as populations rise and the same number of resources remain constant competition comes into play.

IMO This is a classic EQ server which comes with most of the baggage of that era. No one is gonna hold your hand, no one is going to give you free loot because you can't be bothered to put in even minimal effort to obtain said loots. There's other places out there that cater to that easy distribution of loot. If that's your goal then why are you here go out and raid your heart out.
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Old 05-11-2017, 09:13 PM
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Bunch of casuals. It was way funner after that original Nagafen AW suspension. A brilliant plan to spread raid timers out over around a week was enacted by AM. 16 hours? Bah you aren't really getting to the fun part of raiding until you've tracked the same screeenshares for 30-40 hours straight or made a pet track hotkey Jarekn tells you,'Attacking Vulak Master. That you mash once a millisecond.

It's been amusing over the years to see how much end game scene has improved immensely yet the crying never stops. You are in a world with limited resources even with strict rotations you may never get that coveted item you desire. That's EQ and what makes it so great is it really feels like a living world. You make of it what you will and some sit for years occasionally nabbing some top gear here and there in casual guilds. On the other flip side there are those who recognize that in a system made up of limited resources if you want the best stuff you will have to put in the effort to obtain it. Especially as populations rise and the same number of resources remain constant competition comes into play.

IMO This is a classic EQ server which comes with most of the baggage of that era. No one is gonna hold your hand, no one is going to give you free loot because you can't be bothered to put in even minimal effort to obtain said loots. There's other places out there that cater to that easy distribution of loot. If that's your goal then why are you here go out and raid your heart out.
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Old 05-11-2017, 10:42 PM
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honestly the millions of threads like this is probably why a/a will never stop doing it, i think they enjoy seeing the casuals cry, it makes them feel superior and it justifies those 16 hr track sessions
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Old 05-11-2017, 11:43 PM
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honestly the millions of threads like this is probably why a/a will never stop doing it, i think they enjoy seeing the casuals cry, it makes them feel superior and it justifies those 16 hr track sessions
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Old 05-12-2017, 02:57 AM
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It's really just become nasty here.
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Old 05-12-2017, 01:30 PM
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It's really just become nasty here.
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Yes, yes it has.
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Old 05-12-2017, 03:40 AM
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lol @ p99 raiding
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