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Old 12-31-2022, 11:02 PM
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Updated list (V5)

* = Recently added to list

What do you get if take an Iksar_Necro and remove the following abilities...?

- Skeleton illusion*
- Spectre illusion*
- Unresistable damage spells* (no debuff required)
- Instant clicky invis
- FD
- Mez
- Root
- Snare
- Undead charm
- Mana efficient undead fear
- Mana efficient undead nukes
- Kurn's Tower
- Howling Stones
- Lower Guk
- Unrest
- Fear
- Evac
- Manaskin (absorb damage + increase mana regen)
- Locate corpse
- Summon corpse
- Resurrect corpse
- +33 mana regen
- +18 HP regen
- Lifetaps
- Heals
- Cabilis
- Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

...and force him to have a permanent 50% XP penalty if pet does more damage than he does?

Answer:

 
Mage you dummy
TLDR this thread but.. Can the above fancy necro lad:
  • go to almost any city with minimal faction work?
  • rely almost 100% on their baller summoned pet?
  • Never need to buy food/water or wr bags?
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:11 PM
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Updated list (V5)

* = Recently added to list

What do you get if take an Iksar_Necro and remove the following abilities...?

- Skeleton illusion*
- Spectre illusion*
- Unresistable damage spells* (no debuff required)
- Instant clicky invis
- FD
- Mez
- Root
- Snare
- Undead charm
- Mana efficient undead fear
- Mana efficient undead nukes
- Kurn's Tower
- Howling Stones
- Lower Guk
- Unrest
- Fear
- Evac
- Manaskin (absorb damage + increase mana regen)
- Locate corpse
- Summon corpse
- Resurrect corpse
- +33 mana regen
- +18 HP regen
- Lifetaps
- Heals
- Cabilis
- Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

...and force him to have a permanent 50% XP penalty if pet does more damage than he does?

Answer:

 
Mage you dummy
TLDR this thread but.. Can the above fancy necro lad:
  • go to almost any city with minimal faction work?
  • rely almost 100% on their baller summoned pet?
  • Never need to buy food/water or wr bags?

Yada yada yada

Magicians aren't without their faults but get righteously fucked by a donkey OP. As creamy as you think necros are, their big and better brothers ("encheaters") would like to have a word.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:13 PM
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:45 PM
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TLDR this thread but.. Can the above fancy necro lad:
  • go to almost any city with minimal faction work?
  • rely almost 100% on their baller summoned pet?
  • Never need to buy food/water or wr bags?
Iksar Necro can use a trick to bank in good cities.

Mages have to chain summon pets they suck so much and Mages can't solo without a pet; they can't rot or charm kite.
WR bags disappear when Mage logs out.

Necro doesn't even need food or water. Necro doesn't even need to sit down to med the regen is so fast.
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Old 12-31-2022, 11:48 PM
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TLDR this thread but.. Can the above fancy necro lad:
  • go to almost any city with minimal faction work?
  • rely almost 100% on their baller summoned pet?
  • Never need to buy food/water or wr bags?
The WR bags go bye bye when the Mage logs out.
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Old 01-01-2023, 12:02 PM
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Have I missed anything?

Yes I have so let's update the list.

Updated list (V6)

THE QUESTION: What do you get if take an Iksar_Necro and remove the following abilities...?


* = New addition to list

- Invis to undead*
- STR debuff*
- Cure disease*
- Gift another player their mana bar*
- Dead Man/Men Floating*
- Plant nukes*
- Skeleton illusion
- Spectre illusion
- Unresistable damage spells (no debuff required)
- Instant clicky invis
- FD
- Mez
- Root
- Snare
- Undead charm
- Mana efficient undead fear
- Mana efficient undead nukes
- Kurn's Tower
- Howling Stones
- Lower Guk
- Unrest
- Fear
- Evac
- Manaskin (absorb damage + increase mana regen)
- Locate corpse
- Summon corpse
- Resurrect corpse
- +33 mana regen
- +18 HP regen
- Lifetaps
- Heals
- Cabilis
- Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

...and force him to only ever use a pet and ive him a permanent 50% XP penalty if his pet does more damage than he does?

Answer:

 
Mage you freak
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Old 01-01-2023, 02:36 PM
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What do you get it
Twitch plz
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Old 01-01-2023, 05:51 PM
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Updated list (V7)

THE BIG QUESTION: What do YOU get if you take an Iksar_Necro and remove the following abilities...?

* = New addition to list

- Lucrative Treants*
- Lucrative human guards (HHK)*
- Lucrative WC/EC Druids*
- Banking exploit*
- Invis to undead
- STR debuff
- Cure disease
- The ability to give another player your mana bar
- Dead Man/Men Floating
- Plant nukes
- Skeleton illusion (+ vendors who are friendly to you while in skelly illusion)
- Spectre illusion
- Unresistable damage spells (no debuff required)
- Instant clicky invis
- FD (pause button)
- Mez
- Root (+ undead only root)
- Snare
- Undead charm
- Mana efficient undead fear
- Mana efficient undead nukes
- Kurn's Tower
- Howling Stones
- Lower Guk
- Unrest
- Fear
- Evac
- Manaskin (absorb damage + increase mana regen)
- Locate corpse
- Summon corpse
- Resurrect corpse
- +33 mana regen
- +18 HP regen
- Lifetaps
- Heals
- Cabilis
- Abashi's Rod of Disempowerment

...and force him to only ever use a pet and ive him a permanent 50% XP penalty if his pet does more damage than he does?

Answer:

[spoiler]MAGE, because he's not evil[spoiler]
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Old 01-02-2023, 08:08 AM
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i basically farm cash to buy coffins, EEs & peridots
then i can enjoy dying repeatedly in howling stones
A compelling gameplay loop.
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Old 01-02-2023, 08:16 AM
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You forgot to mention targetable buffs like spirit armour, cold and disease resists, impart strength.

Disease cure to help out newbs with rabies.
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