Newbie Zones: Ready for Launch?

[soronil]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm really confused by your comments on FP and Qeynos. Why would a Dark Elf who is KOS to some people in FP come to FP to level in its newbie yard? A lot of them will be okay with the guards, but having to trek all the way down through the tunnels to get to vendors who will sell to you? Not being able to bank in North FP? It simply doesn't make sense for a Dark Elf to go to FP until they've accrued several levels and they're ready to start leveling in EC or N Ro. Not to mention that Nektulos is a phenomenal newbie zone with a great progression of content through the first several levels.

it's only a few minutes away from neriak. And you can kill mobs all the way.

Toxx has low levels spawns all the way to WC. It will be quite natural for people to spread out from neriak and eventually zone into WC if they can't find mobs in Toxx. On blue, people flock to WC to be near buffs / where they came to get their twink gear from their other char. So again kind of natural for people to gravitate towards DC. Not to mention the undead in befallen will be a popular spot once you get to level 4+

P.S there are quests that gets an agnostic DE to apprehensive with the merhcants in 20-30 minutes. Will also get you from level 1 to level 2.

[Lojik]

Originally Posted by cd288 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm really confused by your comments on FP and Qeynos. Why would a Dark Elf who is KOS to some people in FP come to FP to level in its newbie yard? A lot of them will be okay with the guards, but having to trek all the way down through the tunnels to get to vendors who will sell to you? Not being able to bank in North FP? It simply doesn't make sense for a Dark Elf to go to FP until they've accrued several levels and they're ready to start leveling in EC or N Ro. Not to mention that Nektulos is a phenomenal newbie zone with a great progression of content through the first several levels.

As for Qeynos, the newbie yard is pretty big there. Why would Barbarians go there? Everfrost has some great early level quests that you can do to get decent starter gear and then you can go straight to Blackburrow. Honestly, if I created a character in Qeynos I'd probably try and get to Everfrost instead of the other way around. I guess some Erudites might go to Qeynos at level 1, but why? While not great, Toxx isn't awful either. Not to mention, an evil Erudite (i.e. Necromancers) won't be able to get to Qeynos on their own until they get Gather Shadows at level 8.

/shrug I guess everyone has a different opinion, but at least on this server Everfrost is very low on mob density, tox somewhat, nektulos maybe a little better? I think part of the problem is that when people come to p99 blue, they only experience the low level bit for a few hours then move on, so no one really pays attention to if the classic mechanics/spawns are right, and it's an extremely unclassic (and usually fast) experience (no one to compete with spawns, people will usually just straight up give you plat and items even if you don't ask.) As a result places with (at least it sure as hell seems like to me) lower mob density than on live "feel" classic, because at most there's 1 or 2 other lowbies in the zone with you, when in reality on live this was supporting much more than that...obviously not the hundreds we'll probably see. I really think unless they address several zones and their low mob density it's going to be really bad in places like everfrost, tox, possibly nektulos, and people will either quit or travel outside those zones.

As far as Neriak to freeport, a good portion of dark elf classes are not kos, and while they can't vendor in efp they can possibly vendor in commons. I highly suspect DE to be a popular class at launch and thus Nektulos forest to be overburdened. FP again has TWO newbie yards with lots of spawns, in nro it's basically like a mini newbie yard and ec a bit as well.

PS has anyone leveled a good erudite 1-4 in tox forest in the last couple of months? Ugh those rats everywhere.

[Deathrydar]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think part of the problem is that when people come to p99 blue, they only experience the low level bit for a few hours then move on, so no one really pays attention to if the classic mechanics/spawns are right,.

This goes deeper than you think. When I started here back in beta, I realized that very little to none of the lower level zones were tested in beta. Nearly everyone was level 60 and no one cared.

I was offered an insta-60 as well, but I turned it down because I wanted to test the lower level stuff. As stated in my previous post in this thread, there were a lot of things that were not right in all of the Freeport zones, East Commons, and North Ro. That being said, I only had time to test that area, so I am sure that the other areas were probably never really tested in beta back in 2009 and remain unfinished.

[Verityn]

Originally Posted by Lojik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I highly suspect DE to be a popular class at launch and thus Nektulos forest to be overburdened.

Maybe this green server will be different, but for whatever reason people love making elves of all kinds and then never really getting very far with them. Whether it was the few new live servers pre-kunark I was on or the TLP servers Gfay and Nek were jammed packed with players. When I played a dark elf wizard I felt obligated to run to the commons/freeport just so I could get past level 3. The same with gfay where I'd run to Butcherblock.

[Hoppkins_Wytchfinder]

Yup stick near the EC zone in. Zoning is kind of like running to the guards anyway.

Same on the Nro zone. SOunds a good plan to me as long as your careful.

I would say most people stick near the guards and dont go more than 3/4 of the way into the newbie area. The part near the EC/Nro zones is probably pretty underused.

[Chryorn]

The run to Freeport is attactive for Dark Elves because the loot is much better there. All these skeletons and pawns with their cloth armor that is DE wearable. The skeleton population in Nektulous was much lower and the mobs more spread out as well. Especially East Freeport yard was attractive because Murissa Sandwhisper was standing right at the zone line in North Ro.

[magusfire24]

I was going to be a mage on Green . It might be a good idea to be a Erudite than to have a less trafficked newbie area. Plus never been a Erudite. Rule all with the big forehead!

[Snagglepuss]

The sea of corpses is going to be hilarious, especially in G’Fay where that cent patrols between Felwithe and the Kelethin newb area. It’ll look like Sky Isle 1!

[BlackBellamy]

Sgt. Slate is going to be furious! Time to die, a newbie DE Cleric!