Spells: Resist issue since patch thread

[Bazia]

uh i grouped in seb all the time with encs and they did not have issues mezzing same level mobs and definitely not lower ones

[Ladytron]

screwball stuff going on and i cannot login to test myself as im suspended until further notice

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by Bazia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

uh i grouped in seb all the time with encs and they did not have issues mezzing same level mobs and definitely not lower ones

There's a big difference between a level 45 enchanter CCing level 45 zol knights and level 54 enchanters mezzing level 53 illis knights. Furthermore, being able to fill a CC role in a group doesn't mean that there weren't still a lot of resists ... which is what we're talking about.

[koros]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What context are you talking about?

You made it sound like a 54 enchanter would be able to reliably mez level 52-53 mobs pre-tash before the patch... and that is just plain untrue. 53s resisted 60 enchanters at a fair clip; a 54 would have had a BOATLOAD of resists in places like HS east or the nasty parts of the hole. That's why you NEVER see chanters that low in those places.

I'm not arguing that CC couldn't use some intentional resist tweaks... but you're just making shit up or not understanding how things were working or something with the stuff you're saying.

I have a 40 enchanter. His mezzes get(got) resisted at a far lower rate than normal all or nothing spells. Perhaps resists are off for 51+ mobs. They didn't magically get a new resist modifier because they were over 50.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by koros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have a 40 enchanter. His mezzes get(got) resisted at a far lower rate than normal all or nothing spells. Perhaps resists are off for 51+ mobs. They didn't magically get a new resist modifier because they were over 50.

Like I said before, p99 mezzes seem to either have a built-in resist mod or charisma influences their resists similar to how it helps lulls/charms work better. It feels like casting a mez on an untashed mob is similar to casting a root/slow/stun on a tashed mob I guess. That's significant for sure, but I don't know about "far lower rate" or "ridiculously low" or "lol 54 enchanters can CC ilis frogs np np" or whatever.

And who said that 51+ mobs don't have a special resist mod? 51+ mobs "magically" started summoning. Almost ALL of the 51+ mobs were introduced with Kunark expansion. It doesn't seem very far fetched imo.

[Tasslehofp99]

off topic here, but seb on p99 is a lot harder than it was on live.


I solo'd the upper zone out for hours as a druid on live 58 to 60 and never once came across a summoning sebilite golem. On p99 it seems as if every sebilite golem summons, kind of irritating.

Anyway back on topic, something about green cons resisting dots and nukes from a 60 druid/sham seems wrong. Especially at the rate that its occurring, will post logs after work for reference.

[Scrubosaur]

You are preaching to the choir. Exit was always camped because the golem's didn't summon and were decent exp. I don't remember anything summoning until Disco, Bar and Crypt. If you look at the 2001 notes for the golem's it even says that a druid can solo upper seb and that a group of 50s can do exit golems.

[Potus]

Please bug report the Sebilis stuff in a new thread, because yeah that zone shouldn't be super difficult.

[Haynar]

Clearly it was not checked how often resists by greens were happening. And i see the value it was now. You all whine way too much over 1%. Thats it. 1% chance to resist. I adjusted it.

Blah.

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[Scrubosaur]

Are you sure it wasn't higher than that? I spent a few hours killing green basilisks in RM and had quite a few resists on Deflux lifetaps. I mean yeah I know RNG is RNG but it felt like more than a 1% chance.