Cheating everywhere, GMs???

[Slippy]

Originally Posted by SantagarBrax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sometimes, you have to tell your children no. EQ should have told those players asking for instancing and rotations "No" because that decision and the Atari mindset of "quantity over quality" were the two main reasons Live died. The divergence of the playstyles, casual with friends vs. end game raiding, was natural yet it wasn't necessary to choose one over the other. EQ should have kept both the way it was and is here on p99. This is what made the best Everquest and MMO ever.

Players never really "asked" for instancing - it was introduced in the LDoN expansion as a test to see if EQ Live could move to that system as a fix for the open world problems.

EQ live had many issues, but after Planes of Powers, they had 3 expansions that were considered failures. LoY, LDoN, and Gates of Discord. GoD was a mess and by the time OoW came out to try and fix the issues from GoD, players had enough - Live lost a massive chunk of their player base (server mergers) and most never came back. WoW had a big following from their previous games, much easier to level and gear... overall it appealed to the masses.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Slippy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Players never really "asked" for instancing - it was introduced in the LDoN expansion as a test to see if EQ Live could move to that system as a fix for the open world problems.

EQ live had many issues, but after Planes of Powers, they had 3 expansions that were considered failures. LoY, LDoN, and Gates of Discord. GoD was a mess and by the time OoW came out to try and fix the issues from GoD, players had enough - Live lost a massive chunk of their player base (server mergers) and most never came back. WoW had a big following from their previous games, much easier to level and gear... overall it appealed to the masses.

LoY, Ldon were the best! GoD was alright going back to it after oow, but it had a terrible colour palette and muddy details. I preferred the strong contrasting colours and clear boundaries in details of earlier eq.

I think they added instancing for Plane of Time too.

I don’t mind too much the raid system in p1999 - it is pretty cool to get an email inviting you to kill a boss at that moment. Someone said people that won’t try non-instance are missing out, but many of these players don’t play the game as a sport but as a narrative and they want to be able to play the story of going to the dragons lair with no one but their choice friend and saving the world from this terror.

[Slippy]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

LoY, Ldon were the best! GoD was alright going back to it after oow, but it had a terrible colour palette and muddy details. I preferred the strong contrasting colours and clear boundaries in details of earlier eq.

I think they added instancing for Plane of Time too.

I don’t mind too much the raid system in p1999 - it is pretty cool to get an email inviting you to kill a boss at that moment. Someone said people that won’t try non-instance are missing out, but many of these players don’t play the game as a sport but as a narrative and they want to be able to play the story of going to the dragons lair with no one but their choice friend and saving the world from this terror.

Most players overall were not happy with LoY and LDoN, although they did add some good things (armor dyes, guild manager, augments), it was the content of those 2 expansions that was lacking, and at the time we had to wait a year for a new, big expansion.

A big reason GoD failed was SOE, for whatever reason, did not add the 5 levels that the expansion was supposed to have - making the content extremely difficult. Only a small number of guilds beat GoD without the level cap, I would be surprised if more than 5 guilds beat it before OoW. There were other issues as well (graphics issues, unfinished quests and zones), and it was considered a waste of money by most of the players and pissed everyone off.

I raided heavily back then and PoTime was on a guild rotation for most servers. It wasn't until after the server mergers, which was OoW era, that SOE went back and made Time instanced. Most guilds were bottlenecked in Time and still struggled in GoD (Uqua) due to the rotations / not having quality geared raiders.

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And once instances became common on Live, high-end (at least on my server) competition switched to your gear and where you guild stood, server wide and on your individual server. It was tracked on 2 websites: EQrankings.com, which was a server wide guild tracking and rankings website, and the class rankings on Magelo.

Neither of those can apply on P99 due to the time-lock, maybe the gear ranking for a short time would have worked a few years ago, eventually BiS characters will tie one another and it will become pointless.

Different eras of the game...

[Slippy]

Originally Posted by Slippy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Only a small number of guilds beat GoD without the level cap, I would be surprised if more than 5 guilds beat it before OoW.

I meant to say Only a small number of guilds beat GoD without the level *increase*

[mattydef]

This is p99, let’s be realistic here, you don’t need video evidence to prove there’s cheating going on in the raid scene by neckbeards.

[Ooloo]

Since the olympics are currently happening I guess, p99 cheating scandals are pretty much exactly the same as athletic doping scandals. So, let's just let everyone cheat. It would be way easier on the staff, and there's still a legitimate competition over who is actually better at cheating.

[Reiwa]

Originally Posted by Ooloo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Since the olympics are currently happening I guess, p99 cheating scandals are pretty much exactly the same as athletic doping scandals. So, let's just let everyone cheat. It would be way easier on the staff, and there's still a legitimate competition over who is actually better at cheating.

Found the Russian bot.

[DeliciousHalflings]

Idk what garbage, child-ridden servers you all played on retail back in the day, but racing for mobs and crying over FTE is far from classic from my experience. Seems like p99 really isn't worth getting back into solely because of the juvenile raid scene. I'd wish you luck. But honestly, people perpetuating that type of bullshit deserve to fail. Get fucked, p99.

[Gustoo]

Originally Posted by DeliciousHalflings [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Idk what garbage, child-ridden servers you all played on retail back in the day, but racing for mobs and crying over FTE is far from classic from my experience. Seems like p99 really isn't worth getting back into solely because of the juvenile raid scene. I'd wish you luck. But honestly, people perpetuating that type of bullshit deserve to fail. Get fucked, p99.

Like anyone with a brain you wait for red 2.0 since pvp solves all this dumb shit click racing

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Gustoo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Like anyone with a brain you wait for red 2.0 since pvp solves all this dumb shit click racing

1 month of no PnP/Pvp enabled in ToV would literally be the most fun month of p99 i've ever had.

THAT SHIT WOULD GET OLD AFTER A WHILE, but for a month, that shit would be crazy fun.