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High MR mobs? Who cares. By the time you're at that level your charm pet is gonna have like 7-8k hp. Not hard to heal that. Quote:
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You keep talking about "freeing up the others" like they aren't going to be half-bored with ench/cleric/necro/mage. They don't need to be freed up by dead weight. Quote:
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This is laughable at best. You remain the captain of the failboat.
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45 more pages to go before midnight!
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DSM prob has a list of random points he wants to debate to the death on. Here’s a summary of his nonsense so far:
-There’s “math” to objectively say that ogres are the best shaman race. -Shamans are a dps class and can out dps mages -People can’t be mad about players voluntarily awakening the sleeper -Shaman pets are tanks -JBB is a min max item for shamans -Clerics arent needed for 4 man content -shamans offer more use to enchanters than clerics do -shamans net the same pp per hour as an enchanter -you should consider spamming taunt as +1 aggro every 6 seconds is better than nothing while ignoring the fact that there is a superior way to use taunt -150 str on a monk is good enough -you are trolling if you are not interested in my opinion -iksar int is easy to max. You don’t need hp gear. -you cannot claim ad populum yet my experience as a sk is good enough for this discussion I’ll continue to monitor and track this so that people are aware of all these theories. I’m sure there’s some more I missed. | ||
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You can play how you like, but please stop assuming other people must play the same way you do. You seem to want to play the game sub-optimally. That is fine, but not everyone else has to play sub-optimally like yourself. Quote:
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Last edited by DeathsSilkyMist; 12-31-2023 at 07:09 PM..
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Riddle me this ... When you're in a group that is putting out enough massive dps that xp group mobs are going to die in 20-30 seconds, what else is the necro going to do other than manage his pet and lob nukes/taps? Of course there will be circumstances where you want to focus on CC or other critical things ... but certainly not waste mana on dot spells. The whole point here is that the necromancer does not want or need your help keeping himself healed. He can do that in spades. Regen is cute and always nice to have but entirely not needed. I have played a necromancer. Mine is level 60. I've main healed groups of 3 melees without any priestly help and no outside regen. What level is yours?
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You seem to forget that a Shaman is enhancing the DPS of the other party members, which means the DPS gap between having a Shaman and a Mage isn't as big as you think. The Shaman is enabling the party members and pets to deal more DPS, and the party members in turn are also enabling the Shaman to do more DPS because they can increase how much HP the Shaman can cannibalize. You are also getting the massive utility that a Shaman provides.
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-The cleric isn't going to be needing to heal the necromancer. -Having your heals there adds no value beyond redundancy. -I've played a necromancer; you apparently havent. Checkmate? Checkmate.
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The only person who has lost this debate is yourself, when you claimed that Necromancers can do nothing with extra HP/Mana if they were given it. For a level 60 Necromancer, you don't know your class very well it seems.
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If these battles are lasting 40 - 50 secs then a necros dots are of little use or at best very inefficient. Necro dd are also very inefficient. A necro healing itself is both healing and damaging a mob (with a nice -200 mod).
Necro finds himself mana rich? Twitch that mana efficient dd burn mage. Too many charm breaks/adds? Twitch that chanter fucker. Same for shammy dots. Take ages to come to fruition. So mana inefficient. Torpor/slow tanking sounds fun (only ay 60...) if that is the only option. While tanking you have a chance of interrupts when doing all da uva utility stuff you mention? <- is a question btw. Surely malo then slow while throwaway charm pet tanks is a better option? Then why have a shammy at all, just mage pet adds dps + ds on charm pet with pet haste masks sit back and relax. Much of a mages (consitent) damage is from pet, pretty much set and forget (unless charm break) so mage has time to med/malo/burst dd/modrod or whatever is needed. Remember, short fights require burst rather than dot damage. Soloing anything is whatever is most mana efficient no matter how long it takes to kill (i know i know faster than mob regen but dont nitpick). So a nec/sham can dot/pet down a mob down while a mage will pet/malo if mob is under control, but will burn that fucker if need be. I am sure this is wrong in some convoluted factual math provable way so post on, posters! | ||
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