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Old 06-07-2010, 01:16 AM
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Having to drop items / trust others with valuable platinum is risky, seemingly stupid, and extremely frustrating if the inevitable occurs.

Sounds like classic mechanics to me.
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Old 06-07-2010, 02:18 AM
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I'll be happy to transfer anything for anyone. My main is Tork, but I have a paladin parked in EC tunnel. So hit me up on Tork and Ill do transfer with my paladin at tunnel (though ill be able to port around soon, so if Im not busy I'd probably do it on my main, but donation would probably be appropriate.)

I've been scammed before so I wouldn't do it to anyone.

Course, you still have to trust me =P I'm not a thief though. I got scammed out of everything i had once by a douchebag druid who I paid to PL a rogue for me and to transfer some items. He took the items and the plat and didnt even PL me. It wasn't even all that much, maybe like 800pp all together, but it was everything I had.

He laughed at me and bragged about it.
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Old 06-07-2010, 09:50 AM
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There is no excuse for not being able to find a place in ALL OF NORRATH that someone else can't find between the time you log out and log another character in.
I hunted South Karana a lot back in the day. Would go to the top of the tower at the NK/SK zone line and drop items and plat to transfer to one of my other characters.

Also droped a 5 dose SoW potion in Halas once to transfere to another character. Accidently dropped into a snow bank and it dissapeared. Never was able to retrieve it.
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Old 06-07-2010, 10:21 AM
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I hunted South Karana a lot back in the day. Would go to the top of the tower at the NK/SK zone line and drop items and plat to transfer to one of my other characters.

Also droped a 5 dose SoW potion in Halas once to transfere to another character. Accidently dropped into a snow bank and it dissapeared. Never was able to retrieve it.
The snow is deep in Halas.

Also be careful of NPCs. There are some extraordinarily dishonest halflings in Rivervale, which I found out the hard way once upon a time. This one even said "ooh, that's nice!". [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 07-30-2010, 10:58 PM
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i say if possible enable dropping coins.
a) it's true to the classic game
b) it enables monks to keep their weight down (although so does destroying)
c) it enables poor newbies to get some starting cash.
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Old 07-31-2010, 02:02 AM
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A looong time ago, the game "saved" your character every I think 30 seconds. So people would drop coin, and /quit out before the game auto saved, when they came back, they still had their old coin count, plus the world had saved the coin on the ground. When that exploit was discovered they stopped allowing coins to be dropped I think.
This.

Eventually they figured out saving characters only needed to be on zone or the character leaving the world. I think the 30 second save probably still occurred, I don't recall being rewound too hard on a server crash.
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Old 07-31-2010, 04:22 AM
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If you want to transfer money between characters, purchase gems, drop the gems. Gems vendor back for just slightly under what they cost. That's how I do it. If your charisma sucks, get a buff.

Can't find a safe spot? Choose a spot that's hard to get to instead. The tops of buildings are good choices, they take longer to climb than it takes to log over.

Also here, I dug this up:

No conspiracy theory about crashing zones or duping. Saves were done at regular intervals, which was the 'soandso saved', but also at EVERY interaction with the item database. Dropping an item or trading a copper would force a character save, and prevent you from all but server data losses. Often times things really are just done to make the CS staff's life easier.

The introduction of the fastdrop command, and a caveat to coin dropping.
AUGUST 1, 2000
Please note that whatever your setting, coin will always be dropped without confirmation.

The removal of coin dropping.
NOVEMBER 7, 2001
Added code that prevents player characters from dropping coins on the ground. This should prevent the loss of coins due to accident or scam.
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Old 07-31-2010, 05:31 AM
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Some people seem to be under the impression that dropping items on the ground to transfer them is safe if you find a secluded area. Just a warning: using certain 3rd party tools - or manually manipulating the client memory yourself - you can see and pick up any item dropped on the ground within your current zone from anywhere within that zone. I can personally verify that this works even on P99.

I do not know if there's anyone actively exploiting this on this server, but it is easily possible and should be taken into account before attempting to transfer high value items in this manner.
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Old 07-31-2010, 09:18 AM
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Some people seem to be under the impression that dropping items on the ground to transfer them is safe if you find a secluded area. Just a warning: using certain 3rd party tools - or manually manipulating the client memory yourself - you can see and pick up any item dropped on the ground within your current zone from anywhere within that zone. I can personally verify that this works even on P99.

I do not know if there's anyone actively exploiting this on this server, but it is easily possible and should be taken into account before attempting to transfer high value items in this manner.
"Item ganking" as you speak of, requires a client initiated movement packet to be sent (DoTheZone.) They'll show up in the hackers table for such things; but using something nefarious to look at the groundspawns, and simply running to it is certainly an issue. I guess either way, the end result is you losing your items. I think the best way to transfer items ... is to be social, and get some friends you trust.
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Old 08-13-2010, 05:27 PM
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Old thread I know, but I came across this when I was looking for something else in the news archives. This was the old scam, so if we ever do go back to coin dropping, it should serve as a nice 'heads-up' for folks.

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Hello all,
There are a number of scams out there where nefarious inviduals attempt to get people to perform a series of operations that results in the victim unknowingly dropping their coin on the ground. In order to help our players avoid these scams, we're taking action in the patch on Tuesday. We first considered popping up a confirmation box when attempting to drop coin on the ground, however upon reflection we could not determine a reason why anyone would want to do this, except perhaps when attempting to "self-trade" items and coin between characters. However dropping things on the ground is as you can imagine an extremely unsafe and unsupported way to trade items, and has created more headaches for players and our CS staff than it has done them good.
To that end, beginning on Tuesday the dropping of coinage will no longer be allowed by the client. Players will of course still be able to destroy it if they wish, for instance, to releave themselves of unwanted copper.

We look forward to hearing your comments. If there are any reasons that dropping coinage should be allowed that we haven't thought of, please reply and let us know.

Thanks,

Gordon Wrinn
Associate Producer
EverQuest Live and Expansions
Sony Online Entertainment

A discussion thread on the topic, the first post describes exactly what the scammers did:
http://everquest.allakhazam.com/story.html?story=304
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