When do you think everquest was 'perfect/complete' ?

[Gringo]

PoP

[Weekapaug]

Personally, I've played EQ off and on (mostly on) since 2 weeks after release....I've seen most expansions up to one before the current live one, and I've raided up to PoRish, if memory serves. And while every era has it's plusses and minuses, I've enjoyed them all, personally, so answering the OPs question isn't so simple for me.

I think, as a stand alone game, the original classic era is just fine. So is going thru Velious and stopping. While I love classic, I think going to Velious and stopping as we are here is more than appropriate and makes more sense than just staying at classic. Although a purely classic server would be pretty cool, IMO.

Stopping at PoP or maybe LDoN would make for another great server, I think. I really enjoyed that era of the game, even though it put classic behind us and things started getting inflated.

Beyond that, I think DoN would be a great stopping point. The inflation and trivialization started with luclin, ramped way up in GoD and most seem to agree that expansion was not good for the game, but OoW fixes a lot of that, and DoN fixes a lot of OoW. I really dig AA and loved this era of the game, personally.

For me, it's not a question of "perfect." The game has always been fun. Just depends on what era you like, I guess.

[Danyelle]

Originally Posted by Weekapaug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Personally, I've played EQ off and on (mostly on) since 2 weeks after release....I've seen most expansions up to one before the current live one, and I've raided up to PoRish, if memory serves. And while every era has it's plusses and minuses, I've enjoyed them all, personally, so answering the OPs question isn't so simple for me.

I think, as a stand alone game, the original classic era is just fine. So is going thru Velious and stopping. While I love classic, I think going to Velious and stopping as we are here is more than appropriate and makes more sense than just staying at classic. Although a purely classic server would be pretty cool, IMO.

Stopping at PoP or maybe LDoN would make for another great server, I think. I really enjoyed that era of the game, even though it put classic behind us and things started getting inflated.

Beyond that, I think DoN would be a great stopping point. The inflation and trivialization started with luclin, ramped way up in GoD and most seem to agree that expansion was not good for the game, but OoW fixes a lot of that, and DoN fixes a lot of OoW. I really dig AA and loved this era of the game, personally.

For me, it's not a question of "perfect." The game has always been fun. Just depends on what era you like, I guess.

You're now my best friend because this is pretty much exactly what I think. <3

In terms of what expansions did what (in my opinion):

Everquest Classic - God tier
The Ruins of Kunark - Middle tier
The Scars of Velious - God tier
The Shadows of Luclin - God tier
The Planes of Power - Middle tier
The Legacy of Ykesha - Middle tier
Lost Dungeons of Norrath - Middle tier
Gates of Discord - Absolutely filthy disgusting tier
Omens of War - God tier
Dragons of Norrath - Low tier
Depths of Darkhollow - Low tier
Prophecy of Ro - Middle tier
The Serpent's Spine - God tier
The Buried Sea - Middle tier
Secrets of Faydwer - Middle tier
Seeds of Destruction - God tier
Underfoot - Low tier
House of Thule - Middle tier
Veil of Alaris - Low tier

[Ciel]

+1 for Gates of Discord raiding scene. BEST

Planes of Power was great, besides PoKnowledge. I didnt main a wizard or druid in the 'before' time, but I REALLY felt bad for them when PoK was implemented (Nexus (from SoL) was good, imo). PoP 'dumbed' down EQ for the casual, but group/raid content was excellent

[Jimes]

Originally Posted by Ciel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I didnt main a wizard or druid in the 'before' time, but I REALLY felt bad for them when PoK was implemented

I've never understood why people say that. It's not as if people were making a living porting people at 50p a pop. Why were we feeling bad for porting class? Because they didn't have to haul the entire guild to raids anymore? Sounds great to me.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never understood why people say that. It's not as if people were making a living porting people at 50p a pop. Why were we feeling bad for porting class? Because they didn't have to haul the entire guild to raids anymore? Sounds great to me.

Yea... Druids have much better ways of getting moneys. This is just 1 less thing people send me tells about now.

[astuce999]

I think Planes of Power was the pinnacle.

Content: Groupable areas with really good xp and themes, some very interesting unique items, a whole set of droppable (molds) armor set for all classes that did not have a secondary market, thus impeding mudflation.

Raid: I think this was the best mix implemented in a long time, there were different levels of raids for a types of guilds, from the mini-bosses in BoT towers to excruciatingly painful hard-core guild only events like Corniav in PoWater or PoEarthB, with everything in between for all tastes.

Classes: To me, that is one point about PoP that is often overlooked. I love classic EQ (vanilla/kunark/velious) to death, but the classes were severely imbalanced. It started in Luclin with AA's, but it wasn't until PoP that all the classes were rounded, with unique abilities that helped define and refine their roles.

As a Bard, the only ability that I've ever gotten which completely changed the game and "completed" my class was Fading Memories.

cheers

'Stuce

[Scavrefamn]

Originally Posted by astuce999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

As a Bard, the only ability that I've ever gotten which completely changed the game and "completed" my class was Fading Memories.

Ironically, Fading Memories completely broke Bards.

And further irony is that Fading Memories was originally slated to be an Enchanter skill...
Epic fail Sony.

As others have said, and I as well, PoP/Ldon were the perfect time.

[Ciel]

Originally Posted by Jimes [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not as if people were making a living porting people at 50p a pop.

Maybe I remember different. I definitely wasnt end-game anytime before PoP, but I'd take a buddy's druid and port people (pre-nexus) for tons of monies. Hrm.... Maybe I didnt feel AS bad for them because how easy they could make money before...jerks

[Barlimen]

Originally Posted by Ciel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe I remember different. I definitely wasnt end-game anytime before PoP, but I'd take a buddy's druid and port people (pre-nexus) for tons of monies. Hrm.... Maybe I didnt feel AS bad for them because how easy they could make money before...jerks

It was a good way to make some money while leveling up but it wasn't great money by Luclin era for those porters that had been around a while.

PoP/LDoN was probably my favorite time. Loved the old stuff a lot too but I started just after Velious' release so I didn't catch up for raid content until late Luclin.