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Old 11-07-2011, 12:16 AM
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Any macros/automation of any kind, even just for some keystrokes, beyond what the client does is a violation of the rules. I asked and got an answer from a GM a while back.
it hardly matters, everquest basically comes with an ingame macro editor. there's not much automation that you could do that would be worth the effort beyond what the ingame editor provides. there's too much RNG to make automatic actions useful.

i thought about writing an autohotkey / autoit macro for tradeskilling but decided the amount of time it would take to write it would take more than the amount of time it would have taken to just do the combines manually.
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:30 AM
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So if you used like a game controller to play instead of keyboard it be against rules?
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:31 AM
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And if I let my cat play by letting him walk across the keyboard, is that illegal?

Seriously, this thread is just getting ignorant now.

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To simplify (from what I understand):

Programs that give the user an unintended/unfair advantage over other users would be under the "bannable" list. Can you use a controller for this game? Probably. Is it efficient/easy to use? Probably not. Things like WinEQ, EQplaynice, etc that are used to improve game performance/lighten the load on your computer are what Im seeing as allowable.

Programs that interact with your character in-game, the game world, and provide information not normally seen with any normal/legal interface are banhammer-able (Things like MQ2, Showeq,) This would include macro'ing programs that essentially turn your character into a bot I believe.

However, SoE after a while ruled that keystroke recording programs were legal as long as you were at the PC supervising. If they suspected you were not there, and just using the keystroke recorder while AFK, they considered this botting, and immediately hammered your ass permanantly.

Did I miss anything?

Basically, their server, their rules. They shouldnt have to take the time out of their day while development is needed in the 2-3 hours they have to do so when they get home from work to list each and every exception to a rule. I could rename MQ2 "Stinkfinger EQ", and it would still be what it is, functionally. Use your heads guys : /
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Old 11-07-2011, 04:35 AM
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Rebinding with AutoHotkey considered cheating?
Are you going to use it to bot?

IF answer is yes, then yes.
IF answer is no, then no.

Will they be able to tell if you are using this program if you aren't using it to bot?

NO (unless they lied about what their .dll file searches)



Use and abuse imo.
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Old 11-07-2011, 08:26 AM
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It sounds like since there is not a list of allowed/banned programs beyond the obvious ones like MQ2 / ShowEQ, that if you were to use AutoHotkey or whatever that person was talking about, and a GM found it to be against rules, that you would get off with a warning, since there was no actual rule in place. Correct?
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Old 11-07-2011, 12:42 PM
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ITT: Reiker is a dick, Amelinda has a sense of humor, and no fucks were given about the OP.
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Old 11-07-2011, 01:44 PM
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New hotbutton:

/doability X
/autoinventory, /pause 5


X = the ability button you want to link to forage. Place hotbutton on unused hotbar slot. Open the options window and assigne an arrow key to the secondary key for that hotbar button. Everytime you press the direction key you will fire the forage and auto inventory key.

Replace the doability # with whatever skill you want to use.
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Old 11-08-2011, 01:11 AM
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I have a plain US keyboard and when booting to Windows require AutoHotKey to remap CAPSLOCK as ESC.

Luckily I play EQ on Linux where I can remap my keys through X.
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Old 11-08-2011, 08:56 AM
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It seems like there is a lot of good discussion going on here, and I fully agree that it would be nice if we had a list of allowed programs, or at least criteria for what programs are allowed.

Out of respect for the guide, I do want to avoid disallowed programs. However, I am also curious if there are any legal means by which I can just rebind keys and mouse functions. We're not talking about the advanced scripting and 'botting' that AutoHotkey is capable of (and which I do not intend to use) but just something to keep my wrists on the home row.
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