How to solo twink a rogue?

[Wakanda]

Why was the Burning Rapier so bad? I guess the original version was even worse than the 7/20 one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] like what was they thinking when they made this item.

[Jimjam]

Originally Posted by Wakanda [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why was the Burning Rapier so bad? I guess the original version was even worse than the 7/20 one [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] like what was they thinking when they made this item.

You're looking at it through the eyes of post Kunark mudflation. You need to look at it as a first gen character still levelling up before even hate/fear/sky were out.

[Goregasmic]

Yeah if you run the weapon efficiency formula (dmg x2 +dmgbonus)/dly locustlure is real close to a jade mace at 60 and it beats all the 10/20 weapons. At 46 it might be worth it to just keep it main hand. Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise but if you can be bothered you might want to swap it for backstabs especially when you get double backstabs.

In before "join a guild and just get a mrylokar's".

[TheBlob]

Originally Posted by WarpathEQ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

100% not trying to yuck someone's yum just trying to value your time (or project a fraction of how I value my time on to you maybe). As someone who leveled multiple rogues for the same reason (not enough raid DPS), mains a rogue, and is now leveling a monk the advice came from a place of walking this road (with a way bigger investment in twink gear). If I had to do it over I would much rather have a monk with a bunch of BIS gear over my rogue as I could do a lot more with it both inside and outside of raids. You'll find monks at the high end can rival rogue DPS in raid environments and have a lot more utility than the rogue does and what you've described of your typically solo play style, continuing to work on your monk that you already have a huge head start on will reap more rewards than starting fresh on a rogue.

The main reason rogues are prolific for raid DPS is because the threshold to get them to raid level DPS is really low, much lower than being able to solo anything 40+. Its basically just an epic and some resist gear and buffs will pretty much max your stats. So its cheaper and quicker for large guilds to power level entire groups of rogues, where they don't have a gear threshold to obtain solid exp, get them an epic and some cheap gear and send them into battle. From an individual player stand point monk beats rogue in effectively every category.

As far as farming stuff yourself sounds like FBSS would be your go-to haste item as it sounds you are familiar and comfortable with the zone/camp and its superior to SCHW. I would stay away from Iksar berserker club from a rarity stand point as I've spent hundreds of hours farming in KC and just saw my first one ever (PS. you can have it for free if you're on green), unless someone can confirm its way more common/easier to obtain in Kurns.

I would check out Chardok castle entrance on your Druid, you can charm the dogs in there, great way to finish off lvl 60 and there are a handful of good pre-raid loot that are good items for rogues and monks.

Not at all! Thanks for your honest and thorough input 😊

I indeed like my monk a lot, but I sometimes get bored of my 50+ toons and like the variety of playing low level alts, even if for only 10 minutes.

For the Iksar Berzerker Club, I really don’t mind the rarity. I play most of my time semi AFK while working or doing chores so I’m ok with checking EQ every 20 minutes. The wiki is down for now so I can’t check but I didn’t know it also dropped in KC!

Goregasmic: I’m not alone!!!

Snaggles : Nice! I like camps where I can also get some exp going at the same time. The mix of linear exp progression with the random item progression is what keeps me hooked to this game :P

Crede : Now I didn’t think of those items! Since my main is a mage and has no CC, I always categorized Karnor as an “exp group zone”. These two items are indeed nice and might be possible to obtain with a druid!

Goregasmic again: I would like to try my hand a Chardok farming with my druid at some point. I guess the best bet would be to get factioned and then kill PHs and named and /q with the mob dotted and low hp to not get faction hits?

Cheers all! I should be OK with a lot of farming with all of these ideas [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Goregasmic]

Originally Posted by TheBlob [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Goregasmic again: I would like to try my hand a Chardok farming with my druid at some point. I guess the best bet would be to get factioned and then kill PHs and named and /q with the mob dotted and low hp to not get faction hits?

No the /q thing is mostly for ench in SG since the faction cannot be repaired. In chardok repairing faction is easy so no one cares to /q. What you'll want to do is farm/buy green goblin skins (get an earring of essence and an idol of the thorned while you're in droga if you go the farm route) up to warmly then claim this ring. https://wiki.project1999.com/Di%27Zo..._Service_Quest

Then you just kill down to apprehensive and turn in more skins if you need to.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're looking at it through the eyes of post Kunark mudflation. You need to look at it as a first gen character still levelling up before even hate/fear/sky were out.

Bad weapon at any point on timeline. Rogues are not good classic characters, and they didn't get fixed until Kunark with itemization.

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Jade mace no doubt. Can harmo in KC, and zone out in 2 seconds at captain camp. Locustlure in main for backstabs and slow proc. Mallet slightly better OH though if he masters Chardok.

God dammit you people don't know how to play the game. Locustlure is to good weapons as Burning Rapier is to good weapons.

Originally Posted by Goregasmic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah if you run the weapon efficiency formula (dmg x2 +dmgbonus)/dly locustlure is real close to a jade mace at 60 and it beats all the 10/20 weapons. At 46 it might be worth it to just keep it main hand. Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise but if you can be bothered you might want to swap it for backstabs especially when you get double backstabs.

In before "join a guild and just get a mrylokar's".

Please don't recommend weapon swap autism to casual players who might be seriously considering using a Locustlure as a mainhand. At that point in the game it's ok to make mistakes (like using Locustlure for damage). Squeezing peak efficiency out of your DPS class isn't something that's going to happen for someone using that bad of ratio for one, and it's too much micro for minimal gains and fucking around in your bags is distracting from a period in time you're learning agro mechanics in higher level play.


"Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise"

Poorly. 10 dmg is really the floor for rogue leveling. Crystalline Spider Fangs probably sell for 50p now. It's a little better ratio (bad) and is better rogue suited. Also obtainable solo. Obviously you should just get a Mrylokars, but you can't zone into NToV until 46.

[kjs86z2]

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[Cecily]

100%. I run that on every rogue I make. It's such a fun pre-epic and a good swap to offhand post-epic. Entry level raid ratio. And teaches you the fundamentals of how to control a fast weapon with different types of tanks leveling up.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

God dammit you people don't know how to play the game. Locustlure is to good weapons as Burning Rapier is to good weapons.


Please don't recommend weapon swap autism to casual players who might be seriously considering using a Locustlure as a mainhand. At that point in the game it's ok to make mistakes (like using Locustlure for damage). Squeezing peak efficiency out of your DPS class isn't something that's going to happen for someone using that bad of ratio for one, and it's too much micro for minimal gains and fucking around in your bags is distracting from a period in time you're learning agro mechanics in higher level play.


"Not sure how it would fare in backstab damage dps wise"

Poorly. 10 dmg is really the floor for rogue leveling. Crystalline Spider Fangs probably sell for 50p now. It's a little better ratio (bad) and is better rogue suited. Also obtainable solo. Obviously you should just get a Mrylokars, but you can't zone into NToV until 46.

Terrible advice, don’t listen to this, OP.

They are saying don’t swap weapons but use a shitty ratio 10 dmg weapon where you’re gonna have to do solo backstab tricks which is way harder. lol!