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Old 03-13-2022, 02:58 PM
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Old 03-15-2022, 03:51 PM
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Recruiting Clerics, Paladins and Necromancers of all levels and origins to join us in becoming part of something this community is missing - rezzes for tips.

Gone are the days of desperately sliding in DMs of random clerics who didn't bother to /role. <Ring a Rez> will happily come out and rez you for tips, the same way Dial a Port will!
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Also to be clear: we are not a FOR TIPS guild. We are providing a service, we can set pricing if we want to and thats the one thing that will separate us from DaP. If you want us to travel across 10 zones and get a port to rez you for 10pp, sorry about it, thats your problem not ours. If you want a rez you'll pay for a rez, simple as that. We can all afford it if we're in our 40s/50s.
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Old 03-15-2022, 04:20 PM
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I'm confused.
Also the first post should read “will happily come rez you if you agree to pay what we want you to. Lowbie with not much plat who wants a rez? Unless you happen to have died in the same zone as our cleric then you’re SOL because you’re not worth our time…go farm some plat with the big boys if you want to use our exclusive service”

Like don’t get me wrong, when I’ve been in DAP there are times I get annoyed with a tip I’ve received if I had to travel across zones to do the port etc., but if you’re gonna be part of that type of guild then that comes with the territory. You’re there to provide a service to everyone on the server and they will pay what they’re willing to.
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Old 03-18-2022, 04:45 AM
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Also the first post should read “will happily come rez you if you agree to pay what we want you to. Lowbie with not much plat who wants a rez? Unless you happen to have died in the same zone as our cleric then you’re SOL because you’re not worth our time…go farm some plat with the big boys if you want to use our exclusive service”

Like don’t get me wrong, when I’ve been in DAP there are times I get annoyed with a tip I’ve received if I had to travel across zones to do the port etc., but if you’re gonna be part of that type of guild then that comes with the territory. You’re there to provide a service to everyone on the server and they will pay what they’re willing to.
This does NOT work with Uber, a transportation service. Also, Dial can and does set prices for their time and services. Some do and some don't but the whole guild is a business and service. Try paying only in tips to a taxi driver or an Uber, here's $2 for the 45 minute drive, have a great day.
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Old 03-18-2022, 06:54 AM
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<Dial a Port> has shared cleric bots that do this...

the clerics that go out to rez people still need ports, so you can't do this without druids/wizards.

why don't you guys just make a guild that serves all utility roles, period?

some sort of <One Stop Shop> for ports, rezzes, buffs, item transfers, corpse retrievals, power levelling etc

you guys would also be able to fill ranks on open/allied raids, so this "utility guild" would have raiding opportunities as well
OP just doesn't know what he's doing. This could *NOT* be a "for tips" guild in order to be successful. It would require a structured pricing model.

its still a good idea, if someone with a brain can implement it properly, you set pricing guidelines based on the effort required to travel and reach the corpse to be rezzed.

need a rez in WC? basically free, 20p? who cares its WC. need a rez in WW? thats gonna run you 250+ at a minimum. Need a summon and a rez? that's 600p

if a dru/wiz is required to transport the rezzer/summoner, then they split the fee 50/50

don't even send a tell if you intend to pay anything less.

like i said in post #2 of this thread, opportunities for members would extend well beyond simple ports/rezzes.

this guild would have clerics, necros, paladins, druids, wizards and OP p99 rogues at a minimum, you all have alts like enchanter and shaman as well. most guilds exist for the purpose of leveling and ultimately raiding, this guild would not. allied/open raids could just be a nice bonus.

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some sort of <One Stop Shop> for ports, rezzes, buffs, item transfers, corpse retrievals, power levelling etc

you guys would also be able to fill ranks on open/allied raids, so this "utility guild" would have raiding opportunities as well
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Old 03-18-2022, 11:34 AM
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This does NOT work with Uber, a transportation service. Also, Dial can and does set prices for their time and services. Some do and some don't but the whole guild is a business and service. Try paying only in tips to a taxi driver or an Uber, here's $2 for the 45 minute drive, have a great day.
Dial is not permitted to require tips except in certain select circumstances. You could ask someone what they’re willing to pay if you have to like run many zones to go get them, but otherwise you’re not really allowed to set a required tip. That’s kind of the whole point of the guild rules
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Old 03-19-2022, 12:54 AM
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Dial is not permitted to require tips except in certain select circumstances. You could ask someone what they’re willing to pay if you have to like run many zones to go get them, but otherwise you’re not really allowed to set a required tip. That’s kind of the whole point of the guild rules
Wrong, I will submit for your review the official rule #4 of Dial.

"Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on."

Aaaaaaand rule #7

"Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible."


These are not new rules either. They are part of the original rules that haven't changed.
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Old 03-19-2022, 12:58 AM
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Wrong, I will submit for your review the official rule #4 of Dial.

"Greed will not be tolerated of any kind! You may set your own prices for ports or other services, but do not argue with a client over the fare received if the price was not agreed upon initially. You will get stiffed from time to time but just bite your tongue and move on."

Aaaaaaand rule #7

"Avoid the words "donations" or "tips" when advertising your services as we are a pay-for-port service and those words can have mixed meanings. We do however encourage members to advertise free CRs and help lowbies and new members as much as possible."

These are not new rules either. They are part of the original rules that haven't changed.
Thank you for proving my point. You are not allowed to set a minimum price when soliciting services in your port message. If someone messages you and asks you to travel across zones to get them you can have a discussion about price
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Old 03-19-2022, 01:33 AM
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Thank you for proving my point. You are not allowed to set a minimum price when soliciting services in your port message. If someone messages you and asks you to travel across zones to get them you can have a discussion about price
No the rule you just misunderstood says you can set prices. How can I get any plainer? Also I set prices and we've had years of people setting prices on blue. One guy on blue set his minimum price at 100. He had a bunch of people who wouldn't ride with him but others did. And that guy made more plat than I ever saw on blue server.
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Old 03-19-2022, 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by AdrenolineLove [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
Recruiting Clerics, Paladins and Necromancers of all levels and origins to join us in becoming part of something this community is missing - rezzes for tips.

Gone are the days of desperately sliding in DMs of random clerics who didn't bother to /role. <Ring a Rez> will happily come out and rez you for tips, the same way Dial a Port will!

We are just getting established so if this takes off hopefully we can work something mutually beneficial out with the members of <Dial a Port> so we can travel and provide rezzes for people all across Norrath.

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here is an idea. Get clerics going, if this was the beginning, then I would create clerics with their name part of the zone. For example, Thurgadin, cleric would be called Thurgrezzer, level him 49+ and park him there to handle zones - great divide, eastern wastes, Kael and wakening lands ... so on. If clerics already exist which is most likely the scenario, then create a spreadsheet of which zones the clerics would cover.

Each continent have a cleric parked with a name that makes sense to where he is parked.

If you could pull this off, then having a druid to port you around isn't as important. This would take a lot of work to level up many clerics but with a group effort it is possible.

My cleric would join in this madness if it ever took off. He is level 30 currently
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