To the level 40 I ported last night with no tip..

[zodium]

Originally Posted by stewe [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

i never tip for ports, i just put all my gear in my bag and say CR, like porting is so time consuming, takes less then 5 minute to port and med back all the mana you used, oh the horror, should be grateful when anyone gives you more then a thank you, saying thanks is a must but i wont give a cp for a port and never have

this guy has a trust fund

[Jack N]

If you port people as a sort of business, set the terms before completing the service.

[Videri]

Originally Posted by Jack N [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you port people as a sort of business, set the terms before completing the service.

Yet another concise truth from Jack N.

[Natewest1987]

Not in DAP, but the rules seem fair. Besides, why complain on a public forum? You should have immediately asked the person for a tip, if you wanted on that badly. Time spent also accrues when wasting time venting and tending to a forum post

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Natewest1987 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not in DAP, but the rules seem fair. Besides, why complain on a public forum? You should have immediately asked the person for a tip, if you wanted on that badly. Time spent also accrues when wasting time venting and tending to a forum post

That's part of the problem. It's also against the rules to ask for money, so he couldn't have done that either. He's not allowed to expect payment, and he's also not allowed to express his frustration in any public fashion when he gets outright stiffed. All so that he can perform the same function that every porter both can and gets asked to do constantly anyway. So what is exactly is the value in tagging with these guys again? Because I don't think there's a widespread fear that porters are going to screw you over, so being in a 'respected' porter guild seems relatively pointless.

[Meiva]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's part of the problem. It's also against the rules to ask for money, so he couldn't have done that either. He's not allowed to expect payment, and he's also not allowed to express his frustration in any public fashion when he gets outright stiffed. All so that he can perform the same function that every porter both can and gets asked to do constantly anyway. So what is exactly is the value in tagging with these guys again? Because I don't think there's a widespread fear that porters are going to screw you over, so being in a 'respected' porter guild seems relatively pointless.

See my response. It helps to answer some of this. OP or anyone else does not need to be part of DAP should they not like the guild rules. There are good and just reasons.

[Fawqueue]

Originally Posted by Meiva [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See my response. It helps to answer some of this. OP or anyone else does not need to be part of DAP should they not like the guild rules. There are good and just reasons.

That's a valid point...nobody is subjecting the OP to the strict set of of rules but themselves. They should just go freelance and get just as many ports as before, with less hassle down the road if they feel like posting on the forums. We're all adults here and don't need to be scolded by strangers if we feel like pointing out a little douchebaggery now and again.

[El-Hefe]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That's part of the problem. It's also against the rules to ask for money, so he couldn't have done that either. He's not allowed to expect payment, and he's also not allowed to express his frustration in any public fashion when he gets outright stiffed. All so that he can perform the same function that every porter both can and gets asked to do constantly anyway. So what is exactly is the value in tagging with these guys again? Because I don't think there's a widespread fear that porters are going to screw you over, so being in a 'respected' porter guild seems relatively pointless.

I mean... 9 out of ten times if I'm looking for a port I do /who all dial.

So maybe there is something to it.

[Nisse]

Respect yourselves more, don't port for plat. Earn your gear and money through adventure and you'll be happier and wealthier in the long run. Ports are not valued by the community because the market is flooded with porters. 50pp is the correct value of a port, walking/boating to your destination is immersive as hell.

[Meiva]

Originally Posted by Nisse [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Respect yourselves more, don't port for plat. Earn your gear and money through adventure and you'll be happier and wealthier in the long run. Ports are not valued by the community because the market is flooded with porters. 50pp is the correct value of a port, walking/boating to your destination is immersive as hell.

There is only some truth to some of this. Well.. no. Not.. ugh.