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Old 09-24-2019, 10:28 AM
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The temptation to level a mage first to farm / twink a melee class is pretty real.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:33 AM
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Even in Kunark and Velious Mages will out-damage all but the best geared Monks and Rogues in all groupable and light-raid content. Even without the Epic pet, a focused 60 water pet is quite beastly. Then add in the DS, nukes and clickie nukes. It's a ton of sustained damage. And Mages are also quite capable soloers and plat farmers, certainly far better than Monks and Rogues at both.
Ok this is just not true - a 60 velious rogue with just average gear will highly outparse a focused 60 water pet.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:35 AM
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A smart group of people will pull something like 5 mages and a cleric and rush 50. It's insane how powerful that can be.
I was in a static group back on Saryrn for awhile. Four mages, one chanter and one druid. That was a disgusting group. It was comical a few times when we decided to go farm gnoll hide lariats. Four air pets with dex buffs and eight lariats.......oh that was disgusting.
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Old 09-24-2019, 10:38 AM
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I was on also on Saryrn for a good while! Nice to see another from there.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:05 PM
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Ok this is just not true - a 60 velious rogue with just average gear will highly outparse a focused 60 water pet.
The focused 60 water pet quads for 70, procs for 100 something and backstabs for over 200. With Burnout IV, a muzzle and Shaman buffs it is crazy DPS. Then factor in the damage from the Mage DS and nukes. And consider the Mage clickie nukes like Velk boots (35 DPS) and burnt wood staff (25 DPS).

Mages are DPS monsters.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:16 PM
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If you don't want to be bored, go enchanter.
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Old 09-24-2019, 12:47 PM
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Leveling as a Mage on Classic. Grind to level 4, get an earth pet. Get level 5 and 6 easily with an OP pet.. Slow grind to 8 as your pet keeps dying. Repeat this pattern every 4 levels.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:02 PM
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The focused 60 water pet quads for 70, procs for 100 something and backstabs for over 200. With Burnout IV, a muzzle and Shaman buffs it is crazy DPS. Then factor in the damage from the Mage DS and nukes. And consider the Mage clickie nukes like Velk boots (35 DPS) and burnt wood staff (25 DPS).

Mages are DPS monsters.
You can /tgb on pets too now. Cast cotp and son on your pet for massive +attack. And get that shaman to avatar your pet not the dumb ranger while your at it. If that ranger wants avatar he can go sock ST!

This advice is of course most relevent to late green, and assuming (what i believe to be) the bug allowing pets to be TGBd doesn't get resolved.
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:06 PM
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You can /tgb on pets too now. Cast cotp and son on your pet for massive +attack. And get that shaman to avatar your pet not the dumb ranger while your at it. If that ranger wants avatar he can go sock ST!

This advice is of course most relevent to late green, and assuming (what i believe to be) the bug allowing pets to be TGBd doesn't get resolved.
I wish I understood a word you just typed.

What's TGB?
What's COTP?
What does it mean to "sock ST"?
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Old 09-24-2019, 01:38 PM
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What's TGB? Target Group Buff. Until recently, if you cast a group buff, it applied only to your group. Now, you can do /tgb on (right?) and then you can cast a group buff on another group (assuming they're high enough level to receive it). This apparently includes pets, which I didn't think about. Clever.

What's COTP? Call of the Predator, a group ATK buff cast by Rangers. ATK ("Attack" stat) is determined usually by strength, weapon skill, level, and perhaps some other factors. Once you hit 255 strength, max your weapon skills, and hit level 60, direct attack buffs are one of the only remaining ways to increase damage.

What does it mean to "sock ST"? First, you get a sock. Or some socks. Then, you sit at your computer watching for a mob to spawn in ST (Sleeper's Tomb). But you don't want to leave your computer even for a second because if the mob spawns, someone else will get it first. So you stay at your computer. If you have to poop, don't worry...you have the socks.
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