America Vs China

[naez]

smedy sweden dont got nukes or a 2nd amendment

gtfo

[Airdefier]

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Your rules pretty well make this a completely fantasy question so why not add Thor and Iron Man to the mix? In which case, the United States wins hands down.

Uh... no economics... umm... no allies...

Okay, well how about unicorns and pixies? Can I include those?

I was reading this during class, loled so damn hard

[Humerox]

anyone who played shadowbane knows who would win and why.

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[Fenrisulfr]

Russia.

[Ronas]

The votes are pretty even at the moment.

There were restrictions in place because

1. Use of Nukes wouldn't really be put into play, to me i believe they are there just to scare the other nations but neither countries would use them (Well maybe the US because they are stupid and arrogant) due to one bomb pretty much blasting away 1/5 of the world, and leaving behind scars on the planet that wouldn't regen for over 1000 years.

2. I put in no allies because the US has only won one war in history without allies and that when they fought for there independence? Correct me if i am wrong here.

3. And lastly economic was optional, but taken out due to the chinese having holdings in almost every massive company in the world. Mining, food, constructions. If this were to come into play it would put the chinese on a huge advantage, on top of all that, doesnt the US owe China money too? Plus the chinese are playing it smart using the net for cyber espionage into other companies to take them over. Whilst the US are warring for quick cash in the oil industry countries only.

End game, the US might win if the war was quick and decisive but that wouldn't be possible due to the chinese setting up defenses to counter quick assaults like the shock and awe tactics used in Iraq. The chinese know all counter measures for that already, so the war would be drawn out and the US eventually would exhaust there resources within there own country and lose out in the end.

[naez]

If you want to get technical about it, France was an ally for early America against Britain, joining 1778 and ending it with the Treaty of Paris in 1783. Their help in the victory later led to the French revolution. As I said earlier, America freeing itself from 'divine right to rule' toppled the elite world-wide.

If in this scenario allies were allowed, it would be in favor of the Chinese. The principle nations of Eurasia, along with the likely inclusion of Russia (who has recently stopped using USD in its trades with China), is more than the Atlantic world could put up a fight against.

[soup]

Not really sure what you guys who voted for China think China could do. Pretty much all China could do to touch the US mainland is launch ICBMs that don't have nuclear warheads, horribly neutering their effectiveness (I'm assuming they have ICBMs that can reach the US, not 100% sure though)

The US Navy is too powerful. China would be almost completely unable to to get anyone anywhere near the US. Maybe some small scale black ops type of stuff, but that wouldn't be nearly enough to topple the US without something on a larger scale going on.

That's not to say the US could just stroll into China and just decimate everything no problem, but at least the US would be able to put people on Chinese soil, in Chinese air, and in Chinese waters.

[naez]

Actually the US navy is rendered useless sitting ducks by Chinese submarines. This is a recent development within the past few years as they have been popping up behind US naval carriers during military exercises. This goes back to the same secret societies who have threated to blow up the USA's satellites because of our foreign policy.

[bakkily]

haarp, would devistate major ports/areas where they can get to sea, air fast enough, though it would take a hell of a lot of energy

[Ronas]

China is the factory of the world, they mass produce ships/tanks/subs/missles/planes anything. Like if they send out 20 000 ships all over the place, plus 20 000 remote planes controlled by there elite gaming soldiers, it would be something like 20-100 to one on every american military unit. You saying 50 shitty planes vus one elite plane they wont be able to take it out?

Its a numbers game in both war and EQ