LoS member posts about raiding in Jan 2002

[fadetree]

Originally Posted by Jimjam [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not true. Remove / ban raid content is an option.

Well, so is 'turning off the server', but neither does anything to solve the problems. If you are suggesting that remove/ban raid content is a PUNISHMENT to achive order, then you are talking about forced rotations. As I said: forced rotation, instances, or cuthroat are the only options that actually work over any kind of extended period.

[khanable]

Still blows my mind that jeff kaplan (overwatch) = tigole

This fuckin' nerd got a career out of being a EQ jerk!

[skwayb]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Still blows my mind that jeff kaplan (overwatch) = tigole

This fuckin' nerd got a career out of being a EQ jerk!

Same thing the Furor Planedefiler.... Works at Blizzard.

[Pescador]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

[Lhancelot]

Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

That's a good point. And nothing unclassic would be involved.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Pescador [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

One key difference between then and now is the frequent patches he mentions - I'm sure we all remember on live, there was a weekly downtime in addition to sporadic downtimes for minor patches or other reasons. So full repops were happening quite frequently, whereas here you can go months at a time without a repop. I'm sure it's been suggested a million times, but frequent, brief server outages to force a repop (and mess with boxers!) would loosen up the raid scene at the top so you aren't forced to live and die on timers and trackers.

Not classic! Oh wait, it's the exact opposite ... why does is this the only thing on the server that we're not trying to be classic about?

[nyclin]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not classic! Oh wait, it's the exact opposite ... why does is this the only thing on the server that we're not trying to be classic about?

some browsing of the bug forum will quickly show you that changes which are confirmed classic, but might benefit players are ignored in lieu of vaguely sourced, questionably-classic changes that make the game harder. for example, we now have non-classic sneak pulling because Lazie spent 5+ pages posting unsourced anecdotal stories about it.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by nyclin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

some browsing of the bug forum will quickly show you that changes which are confirmed classic, but might benefit players are ignored in lieu of vaguely sourced, questionably-classic changes that make the game harder. for example, we now have non-classic sneak pulling because Lazie spent 5+ pages posting unsourced anecdotal stories about it.

I honestly don't believe the devs think "I could work on this bug or that bug, but this one would make players happy so fuck it I'll work on the other one" [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I'm sure they have considerations that we don't even think of, like wanting to work on parts of the codebase they're familiar with, or wanting to avoid working on parts that are written poorly, and this makes them work on bugs we care less about before ones we do care about.

What I meant was just that for everything else non-classic they have a rational reason (maybe not one everyone agrees with, but still a reason). Boats go the "wrong" way here because Verant couldn't tell East from West. Boats levitate you because it was the only way the devs could avoid tons of "falling off boat" issues. AoEs are un-classically limited to 25 because slow connection speeds gave a similar limit back in the day (and because not having limits created tons of petitions). And so on.

Same thing with resets: there must be some logic as to why they don't do resets here, beyond just "they hate us", and I'm genuinely curious whether anyone knows what it is.

[skarlorn]

tried to read; couldn't.

[Jimjam]

I like the idea of simulated patch day. Could have the server come down for 6 hours once a weeks so we can do our laundry, eat a proper meal and get uninterrupted sleep for a few hours.

The current system of not washing clothes for months at a time is unhygienic and unclassic tbh.