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Old 08-07-2015, 04:28 PM
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I'm not even sure about the merger tbh, seems like a headache. The server would probably be better off with remaining as is. I don't see much harm coming to the project or the red and blue servers if another option was available.

The PvP Teams model would be great for expanding the pvp community. The players on red would come to check it out and so would the blues, without 5 years of farming the playing field would be realativley level with an obvious advantage going to the pvpers who are familiar with the mechanincs but in a hard-coded team environment the new players from blue would have less of a hill to climb to get involved and become invested.

A year or so in, entry would be a bit of a shit show but that is already the case with both servers and additionally the same scenario you will be faced with when entering any MMO post launch/exansion.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:30 PM
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The sister-server to merger thing is a pretty good idea too but without time for velious we would still just have boat loads of plebs showing up on the shores of a famine stricken BiS winter wasteland. Don't see that working out for anyone but the batters.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:33 PM
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I don't support a wipe.

I said use the free server as a new PvP server and have it merge into the current sever every 2 years. That way you get to keep your characters while still giving people a fresh start every 2 years.
I like this idea. I too, although I don't play on Red as I dislike EQ PvP mechanics, dislike wiping. However, brand new PvP server with a server specific rule-set could tempt me.

Why? The rot is too far gone on current Red in terms of RMTing, and other dubious methods that players have employed to obtain pixels. Fresh new server with a light rules but heavy GM enforcement.

I don't like PnP, and would even prefer PK level restrictions removed. Let players enforce their own rules. That said, any transgression by way of RMTing, item duping, exploiting, etc be met with perm bans on server on which transgression occurred.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:34 PM
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The sister-server to merger thing is a pretty good idea too but without time for velious we would still just have boat loads of plebs showing up on the shores of a famine stricken BiS winter wasteland. Don't see that working out for anyone but the batters.
Well, 8 months in each expansion would be an easy fix if you wanted to include Velious.

I imagine 2 years from now the server merge would actually produce a competitive guild to go up against whatever was left on Red99 at that time.

Some pretty strong bonds forming from complete isolation from the other server may reduce guild hoping like it is on Red99.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:37 PM
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Yeah, that 8 month idea is a good one for sure, I like that idea of a ready to contest guild coming out of the wood mill every 2 years, would keep it interesting. Hope staff is reading that idea pal.
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Old 08-07-2015, 04:41 PM
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Item loot can keep things in balance while making reputation, friendship, and behavior matter.

Launch a Firona Vie-style (no drop item flags removed) PvP progression server with item loot.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:00 PM
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Serious answer here Sirken,
We discussed this awhile back and its clear the staff really doesn't care about reds state of competition. A new box/server would mean that people that were perma banned get a new start there correct? More communitites and guilds would play there. Derubael literally banned a whole community of players and gave the platter to another community who did the same thing but worse, you banned the only beards on the server that could compete with these beards. If there was a new server it is very doubtful holocaust would leave this box because they know that they wouldn't be on top and given the #1 spot as they had been here.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:00 PM
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If there was a new server it is very doubtful holocaust would leave this box because they know that they wouldn't be on top and given the #1 spot as they had been here.
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Old 08-07-2015, 05:09 PM
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The idea of a second pvp server that merges with the first after X amount of time would be good. Wiping a server alienates your core players, in the hopes of new people, and old players who are too sick too quit.
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And of course empire is going to troll this thread/say no to a wipe/new server lol. They have no reason not to, no competition popping up yet. Someone said earlier that population always starts high then dies, that literally happened with this server due to a cutthroat guild at the top, seems like this could be happening again. Maybe seriously reconsider some of these options in a month or two from now when pop is 150-200 at peak with 100 of those being empire.
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Item loot can keep things in balance while making reputation, friendship, and behavior matter.

Launch a Firona Vie-style (no drop item flags removed) PvP progression server with item loot.
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