there shall be no more Jinger tears on red.

[Tradesonred]

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't think TMO realizes how much Empire actually DOES follow the rules. Its assholes from Azrael and people like Redd who grief and train other players that cause the most problems. But TMO is bad and losing so they are quick to blame Empire because they have no idea who else to target.

Colgate got banned recently for training... even someone out of the loop like me knows this, you arent fooling anyone.

Holocaust was training as a zerg from Day1 in Guk back in 2011.

[Systolic]

I guarantee you that if Colgate trained anyone, he was griefed and/or provoked first. I would bank on it.

[Tradesonred]

Thats the problem with LNS right there, its not well enforced so endless cycle of retaliation and pre-emptive strikes.

[Damn]

Originally Posted by knix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am done with Red. LNS policy is chronically broke by Empire's minions.
Guild culture is set by the leaders, and by the guild leaders/officers not setting the culture right for their guild AND not being punished for it, ie guild suspended for numerous infractions. But, what incentive is there currently to have empire self discipline or set the culture for its members? the answer is none.

There have been a few people in empire that are cool, and understand that pvp is a challenge, not just killing someone over and over at their bind or before they have rez effect gone or DA/DB refreshed.

I couldn't the the LNS part of the PNP to work for me either way, first trying only calling once in ooc, then shouting in the zone i was in.
*Well, then I was killed naked by an empire who said they just zoned in and didn't see the shout or the ooc and they cannot be held accountable for that.

*Also was killed when zoning into the zone where my body was from the first YT, and was engaged before i had fully loaded into the zone, and empire told me, you can't shout lns, after you are engaged.

*also killed by empire while sitting next to my body spamming ooc and shout lns, less than 15 min from YT.

*also killed by some empire who thought i had been on LNS too long, my body was deep in kael, it wasnt an easy CR.

** also engaged by someone who wanted me to run accross EW before i could even get my hit points up or DA/DB refreshed. they refreshed and i left where i was sitting being harassed by empire, and he followed me half up the kael ramp and engaged me so i had to burn my da/db for him to stop attacking, then left me, without my da/db, 1/2 hit points no buffs, to run across EW.

One time, it worked as it should, i was on LNS, (from a valid pvp kill not complaining about valid pvp death) and was trained by an empire SK, who eventually got my body dragged to zone in.

but, 1 out of 6, in which all the other times were petition-able. I didn't come to red to play petition quest. I was leaving blue to get away from petitionquest. I can't be part of the change to the server, because frankly I have a life and I am not going to waste it dealing with you nerds here.


I wanted everquest with honorable pvp. There is no honor standard in PVP on Red.
I will miss my red guildmates.

What constitutes honorable pvp? you both standing there being full mana hp with sirken in the middle dropping a flag as an indicator that its okay to attack?

This is not blue its not okay to just casually run through everywhere like a retard and not expect to get attacked by anyone who isnt wearing the same tag as you

Lns is not classic and neither is pnp just be happy you got your corpse and could log because on the server i played on you would've been camped in shifts till your corpse rot

[Uuruk]

You literally tried to bait people for 5 hours straight yesterday. Please go back to blue.

[Qtip]

Originally Posted by Modus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not trying to be a nuthugger... but...

Another issue with having an open-invite, 200+ person guild is that you can't control the actions of every single person, every single day of the week. Some members just don't care, know the GM staff likely won't punish them, and revel in the thrill of an easy kill - like a rottweiler chasing a lame rabbit.

I've witnessed Empire leadership attempt to keep things classy/mature/honorable innumerous times, but herding cats is an uphill battle.

The solution is not to have armed guards at every street intersection ready to hose down perpetrators with fully automatic bans. The solution is to repeal, rework, and re-release a functioning and logical LNS system.

A simple /corpsesummon command that summons your corpse to your bind spot (MUST be a city zone) and disables you from doing PVP damage or casting PVP heals/buffs (self only) for one hour would alleviate the problem entirely, and would do wonders toward the health of the server.

If you want to have a big guild, you have to control your big guild. If the few people who act like retards were booted from both sides they would be outcasted and quit. Or they would reroll and act notmal.

This is a video game, not a cut throat game of russian roulette. People just need to calm down and let this server grow already. Empire wins cause they have the gear and numbers. Like when nihilum had the gear and numbers.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Lasher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I saw Jinger call LNS twice while fully geared....

Maybe she was trying to scoot?

[knix]

Originally Posted by XiakenjaTZ [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think I killed him first. I have proof that I just logged in and nuked before he said LNS.

Got like 10 tells about how he was going to get me banned. He is playing BanQuest not EQ.



I am not toxic, OP is a a winey bitch.

[Sat Aug 01 21:24:41 2015] [PvP] Jinger <TMO> has been defeated by Slumlord <Empire> in Kael Drakkel!
[Sat Aug 01 21:24:43 2015] Daymian says out of character, 'its winter'
[Sat Aug 01 21:24:45 2015] Hashtag says out of character, 'so when's Luclin?'
[Sat Aug 01 21:24:45 2015] Returning to Eastern Wastelands, please wait...
[Sat Aug 01 21:24:45 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:07 2015] You have entered Eastern Wastelands.
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:09 2015] It begins to snow.
'
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:26 2015] You shout, 'LNS EW and KAEL, thanks Slumlord for not listening'
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:28 2015] Greybeard says out of character, 'upgradez Enchanted Dwarven Plate Boots -- Boots of the Storm'
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:37 2015] You are out of food and drink.
[Sat Aug 01 21:25:38 2015] You say out of character, 'LNS EW and KAEL, thanks Slumlord for not listening'

[Sat Aug 01 21:26:08 2015] You say out of character, 'OMG asked to not stink of shout in Kael for your guild, so i said it in say '

[Sat Aug 01 21:37:02 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:20 2015] You have entered Kael Drakkel.
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:20 2015] Lean says out of character, 'WTB Essence Emeralds, PST'
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:24 2015] Rockem begins to cast a spell.
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:25 2015] You shout, 'LNS this zone'
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:25 2015] You say, 'LNS'
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:31 2015] Your body is consumed by the flames of the sun. You have taken 1082 points of damage.
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:31 2015] You have been knocked unconscious!
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:31 2015] You have been slain by Rockem!
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:31 2015] [PvP] Jinger <TMO> has been defeated by Rockem <Empire> in Kael Drakkel!

[Sat Aug 01 21:37:35 2015] Returning to Eastern Wastelands, please wait...
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:35 2015] LOADING, PLEASE WAIT...
[Sat Aug 01 21:37:56 2015] You have entered Eastern Wastelands.

[Sat Aug 01 21:37:58 2015] It begins to snow.
[Sat Aug 01 21:38:04 2015] You shout, 'LNS this zone'
[Sat Aug 01 21:38:05 2015] You say, 'LNS'
[Sat Aug 01 21:38:16 2015] Jinger -> rockem: enjoy your suspension

the other messages was about him stating the fact that I had not ooc'd the LNS.

Originally Posted by Systolic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its funny that TMO defends itself despite the fact that after they call force lns in EK they have people in the zone sitting on the bridge for well over 30 minutes.

Clearly I am speaking for myself. I in no way represent TMO.

[hatelore]

Originally Posted by knix [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I am done with Red. LNS policy is chronically broke by Empire's minions.
Guild culture is set by the leaders, and by the guild leaders/officers not setting the culture right for their guild AND not being punished for it, ie guild suspended for numerous infractions. But, what incentive is there currently to have empire self discipline or set the culture for its members? the answer is none.

There have been a few people in empire that are cool, and understand that pvp is a challenge, not just killing someone over and over at their bind or before they have rez effect gone or DA/DB refreshed.

I couldn't the the LNS part of the PNP to work for me either way, first trying only calling once in ooc, then shouting in the zone i was in.
*Well, then I was killed naked by an empire who said they just zoned in and didn't see the shout or the ooc and they cannot be held accountable for that.

*Also was killed when zoning into the zone where my body was from the first YT, and was engaged before i had fully loaded into the zone, and empire told me, you can't shout lns, after you are engaged.

*also killed by empire while sitting next to my body spamming ooc and shout lns, less than 15 min from YT.

*also killed by some empire who thought i had been on LNS too long, my body was deep in kael, it wasnt an easy CR.

** also engaged by someone who wanted me to run accross EW before i could even get my hit points up or DA/DB refreshed. they refreshed and i left where i was sitting being harassed by empire, and he followed me half up the kael ramp and engaged me so i had to burn my da/db for him to stop attacking, then left me, without my da/db, 1/2 hit points no buffs, to run across EW.

One time, it worked as it should, i was on LNS, (from a valid pvp kill not complaining about valid pvp death) and was trained by an empire SK, who eventually got my body dragged to zone in.

but, 1 out of 6, in which all the other times were petition-able. I didn't come to red to play petition quest. I was leaving blue to get away from petitionquest. I can't be part of the change to the server, because frankly I have a life and I am not going to waste it dealing with you nerds here.


I wanted everquest with honorable pvp. There is no honor standard in PVP on Red.
I will miss my red guildmates.

Suck it easy Knix.



















Lawl

[Casey VII]

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