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Old 01-13-2015, 02:16 PM
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I'd greed roll a tstaff all day long.

Wu's quivering staff when your groups 41 monk is using bamboo Bo stick? Sure thing.

Hierophants cloak when you got HBC? Shits getting rolled on.
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:17 PM
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NBG really shouldn't exist in PUGs unless it's for a class spell 51-54.
NBG would be equally inequitable in those situations as well. Just as an enchanter has no "need" of a fungi, a monk has no "need" of torpor (within the context of NBG), but both could improve their character comparably by winning either because of the power of the free market to convert the latent value of those items into real utility ^^

Now if the spells or fungi could not be traded and the items were class restricted, then it would not make sense to award to someone who could not use it, nor would it even be rational for them to want it in the first place since their character would truly have no way to benefit from the item.
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:19 PM
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he i believe he talking about closer to when kunark came out and every monk in a PUG would go apeshit when T-Staffs would drop and it wasnt handed straight to them
yeah i get that. If a PUG is NBG though and a tstaff were to drop it should be handed to the monk in the group that doesnt have one if there is one there. Saying that it should be an exception because it sells decently is just wrong.
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:21 PM
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NBG would be equally inequitable in those situations as well. Just as an enchanter has no "need" of a fungi, a monk has no "need" of torpor (within the context of NBG), but both could improve their character comparably by winning either because of the power of the free market to convert the latent value of those items into real utility ^^

Now if the spells or fungi could not be traded and the items were class restricted, then it would not make sense to award to someone who could not use it, nor would it even be rational for them to want it in the first place since their character would truly have no way to benefit from the item.
Think you're missing the point of 51-54 spells/Wu's staff vs fungi/torpor
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:53 PM
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This was not a guild group, nothing was NBG, we all knew that cash loot was going to be rolled on. The question was whether the afk person should be allowed to roll.

Also everyone started rolling as soon as the cloak dropped. Nobody said "Hey is everyone back now so we can roll?" The /ran fingers were in a hurry...
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:55 PM
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Everyone should roll then, even the Afk.
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Old 01-13-2015, 02:59 PM
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Everyone should roll then, even the Afk.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:01 PM
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yeah i get that. If a PUG is NBG though and a tstaff were to drop it should be handed to the monk in the group that doesnt have one if there is one there. Saying that it should be an exception because it sells decently is just wrong.
Yeah, I'm not saying that is the exception, I am giving that as an example of why NBG should never be the rule (in random / pugs).
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:12 PM
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I'm rolling on everything that drops that is sellable or usable by me unless im with a group of friends or guildies or both. Sure, i'm a rogue and I cant use a Tstaff but the 32k i got for selling it sure as hell bought my epic MQ.

If I was the guy afk, I would expect to get a roll (as long as it wasnt a chronic 1 hour long afk or some shit) And if I was in the group I would let the guy roll.
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Old 01-13-2015, 03:30 PM
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Here comes the fun question.

Do you roll on a quest piece that is no drop and you can't use the reward from said quest, for purposes of selling the MQ, if there is someone in the group who needs the quest piece to actually turn in.

I'd imagine the best example is pawbuster in KC.

Come Velious though, I can't imagine PUGs in Kael. Clerics rolling on chain armor and Rogues rolling on Silk. Lolololol.
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