Dear Azrael

[ricquire]

Originally Posted by Stasis01 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Literally won't read or reply to that shit Ricquire, I already have Rexx if I want to get a noob fired up, and I really don't care about what your opinion is.

Another example of closed minded-ly hating someone you have never even spoke to.

Where is Irah when you need a Jimmies-Rustled-O-Meter.

[Derubael]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Derubael, if I sent you five different fraps clips of Azrael members training my XP groups in different zones, are you gonna do something about it?

Just wondering, if not I don't wanna waste my time, because if raw evidence isn't enough then nothing is.

No, because I'm not going to be making the final calls on disputes like this anymore. IF you have good, clear fraps of being trained that show you being trained, put them up on the petition forum and Sirken, Aussie, or Eunomia will make a determination based on the evidence you provide.

If the fraps are just a blurry mess, or they don't clearly establish evidence of a train when heavily scrutinized, then it's probably best to just file them away in a drawer somewhere.

Originally Posted by ricquire

Last post I promise.

The sad part is I have remorse based on my statements.

Nihilum bore the cross for everything wrong on the box, was disbanded, many quit, and some criticize the management.

Azreal has no shame, doing the same shit, all while seemingly getting a free pass on boxing and being invited to live-streams and telling others they have special protection.

Which is worse

Not here to compare guilds, I think each had/has their faults. I have never held any illusions that Azrael was some miracle saint answer to the raid/guild scene on Red 99. My concern has never been who is "better" or "worse" for the server. I compile the evidence and numbers where available and apply them where they are needed.

Let's not forget that Nihilum and Nizzar were both given a second (or by many reports, more like 4th or 5th) chance after he was caught red handed selling items out of the guild bank for real life cash. We purposefully left Nihilum up and running because we were worried that disbanding it right then and there would have crippled or even destroyed the server.

As far as Lite goes, I rarely log into Red to do anything but clear the petition queue and do reimbursements/complete database tasks. If he is habitually boxing, he will assuredly get caught at some point, just like Nizzar did for RMT. It's only a matter of time and proper man-power before a take-down would occur if he is playing so closely with fire so often.

Regardless, I won't be the one doing the "busting", though I will likely be asked to run a query on the login table to further corroborate a guilty boxing verdict. From this point forward, you're all just strings of 6 numbers or less cobbled together in a queryable profile blob and table columns. The tinfoil hatters will have to find someone else to blame, because I'm removing myself as a target for their theories.

[Elspeth]

Lite is a saint, ban these muppets for slander and long live the resistance.

[mostbitter]

I reported lite for boxing and using vmware almost two years ago pretty sure he aint getting caught cause yall only catch dumb asses that don't bother to use a proxy and a virtual machine

[Kergan]

Derubael down and coined, way to go you stupid assholes.

[Vharvest]

It's not a dispute. They're blatantly breaking the rules.

A "dispute" would be two different interpretations of the rules, based on one viewpoint vs. the other. It's very clearly stated in the server policy that using mobs or NPC's to train and kill other players is a violation. Therefore, Lite and his guild are violating that policy.

The clips themselves are indisputable. I'll go ahead and post them in the petition forum, but sadly, I have a feeling they won't be addressed, for many reasons that go back to a time before I joined the server.

It's very discouraging to a player that's been on the box for a month to receive a "pass the buck" response, but I know you probably don't give two flips about red anymore, and I wouldn't either. Yet another reason to blame Nihilum/Azrael for the toxic environment I find myself playing this game in.

Sigh.

[Kraz]

Fucking stop having rules on a Red server. Allow trains unless it's a raid, end of story. If it is a raid you would hope one of the tards is able to get sufficient frapsed evidence to show the train. As far as small group pvp forget rules they just complicate shit.

[Not Salem]

hahaha

[ricquire]

Originally Posted by Vharvest [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not a dispute. They're blatantly breaking the rules.

A "dispute" would be two different interpretations of the rules, based on one viewpoint vs. the other. It's very clearly stated in the server policy that using mobs or NPC's to train and kill other players is a violation. Therefore, Lite and his guild are violating that policy.

The clips themselves are indisputable. I'll go ahead and post them in the petition forum, but sadly, I have a feeling they won't be addressed, for many reasons that go back to a time before I joined the server.

It's very discouraging to a player that's been on the box for a month to receive a "pass the buck" response, but I know you probably don't give two flips about red anymore, and I wouldn't either. Yet another reason to blame Nihilum/Azrael for the toxic environment I find myself playing this game in.

Sigh.

+1 again. This is the kind of player a good server needs.

Break the mold, ask questions, expect accountability.

[Agatha]

i dont think lite should be banned for punished for boxing, i don't think anyone should. i think he should be punished for creating a hostile enviroment instead of fosting a greater good attitude.

right now azrael has been awake 24+ hours corpse camping holo and not allowing LNS. Thats the type of shit that needs to be addressed, not stupid boxing. Anyone claiming boxing is bad is the same as someone claiming RMT is bad, you are rule lawyering and you are a piece of shit for doing so. If you are in any of the major guilds on this server you would know that both of these trhings breath life into this server.