DA KSes offically now?

[Tokum-6n0m3]

Originally Posted by sidgb [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Actually, I am more interested in this concept where clearing the trash gives you claim to the boss and anyone showing up later is not playing nice. That seems to be new.

Actually It's not "new" its "classic" back when the community meant something, anytime you KNOW a guild is clearing to get to a certain mob, and you KNOW they have the force to take it out, and you purposely jump ahead of them to get said mob, its ALWAYS been a douche move, even if the rules allow it.........

JUST CAUSE YOU DO DOUCHE THINGS WHILE FOLLOWING THE RULES DOES NOT MAKE YOU LESS OF A DOUCHE~

Tokum-6 cleric- p99

[Trimm]

I'm not taking either side, but am wondering if Inno was spawned already when Trans cleared to the second floor? To me, it sounds like Trans cleared and sat in Inno's room and started to wait, then DA showed up and sat next to them, then Inno spawned once both raids were sitting there? I'm just curious as to how this went down is all.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Trimm [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm not taking either side, but am wondering if Inno was spawned already when Trans cleared to the second floor? To me, it sounds like Trans cleared and sat in Inno's room and started to wait, then DA showed up and sat next to them, then Inno spawned once both raids were sitting there? I'm just curious as to how this went down is all.

Inny was not up.

We were at the the top of the stairs watching for him to spawn. DA was clearing the zone and after the zone was cleared moved past us into his room at which time everyone moved to his spawn point.

Inny spawned 10 mins after DA moved there (dont ask me how it was timed so perfect). He DT amothiel and then we engaged as did DA. They got the XP kill and looted.

We had the Fraps and Screenshots showing we were clearly first there and waiting.

[Fists]

Originally Posted by Supreme [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Inny was not up.

We were at the the top of the stairs watching for him to spawn. DA was clearing the zone and after the zone was cleared moved past us into his room at which time everyone moved to his spawn point.

Inny spawned 10 mins after DA moved there (dont ask me how it was timed so perfect). He DT amothiel and then we engaged as did DA. They got the XP kill and looted.

We had the Fraps and Screenshots showing we were clearly first there and waiting.

Wait, so you clearly were NOT sitting your members on his spawn point.. what makes you think you have claim? I am not in DA at all mind you, I just think its stupid that people give a shit about the mob they camped for, when it clearly says camp your people ON the mob to lay claim. Seems like they just mobilized past you, and did what the RULES say to do. Grow some balls, if your gonna keep the poopsocking up trans at least sit on the spawn.

[Supreme]

Originally Posted by Fists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Wait, so you clearly were NOT sitting your members on his spawn point.. what makes you think you have claim? I am not in DA at all mind you, I just think its stupid that people give a shit about the mob they camped for, when it clearly says camp your people ON the mob to lay claim. Seems like they just mobilized past you, and did what the RULES say to do. Grow some balls, if your gonna keep the poopsocking up trans at least sit on the spawn.

By this rational that means unless you are sitting on the throne of the Ghoul Lord you do not have a claim to the "Lord" camp.

The rules does not say you must be "on his spawn point" it says you must be within aggro of his spawn point. Just like any other "camp" in Everquest.

[Ingrum]

After the initial chaos, Inny stood there for like 28 seconds getting all sorts of violated. There wasn't much ping ponging at all. Just some nasty castin' and slashin', not to mention a surely confused Inny. I'm surprised he didn't make an RnF post.

There also wasn't much poopsocking aside from the fact that we had been there longer and made it obvious what our intentions were by sitting in aggro range. Which we did despite being informed by certain DA members that Inny wasn't even possible to spawn for another 30 hours. Thanks for the tip guys!

Regardless, we offered our rotting loot in shout the entire time. Because that's what respectful guilds do. We expected, at the very least, that DA would respect the rules and other players in general and let us have an attempt at the kill without and drama should he have spawned while we were there.

But nay, about 10 minutes before Inny actually spawned, conveniently, DA ran right over top of us and parked their asses in front.

I'll leave most of my personal opinions out of this, but I will say that it's just sad that we're forced to cry to the Devs and GMs to sort out shit like this. We just simply should not be acting like little kids trying to take each others' lunch money on the playground. I'm sure that the devs and GMs love playing Mommy and Daddy for us and it doesn't surprise me that they have to hurt players' feelings sometimes when they get fed up.

Props to both guilds for not being stupid in say or shout. As well as for respecting the decisions that were made. =)

[Uthgaard]

Originally Posted by Ingrum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We just simply should not be acting like little kids trying to take each others' lunch money on the playground. I'm sure that the devs and GMs love playing Mommy and Daddy for us

Holy shit, someone gets it!

Every time a guild dispute needs mediated by Rogean, everyone else's upper level issue gets pushed further down the line. Waiting on a reimbursement? Got hacked? There are only so many hours in a day. Stop and tally up how many of those get consumed every time a raid target turns into a playground rumble.

Time is a resource, like it or not. Our ability to help the players who need help through no fault of their own, is a direct function of your ability to help yourselves.

[oldhead]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit, someone gets it!

Every time a guild dispute needs mediated by Rogean, everyone else's upper level issue gets pushed further down the line. Waiting on a reimbursement? Got hacked? There are only so many hours in a day. Stop and tally up how many of those get consumed every time a raid target turns into a playground rumble.

Time is a resource, like it or not. Our ability to help the players who need help through no fault of their own, is a direct function of your ability to help yourselves.

i've been waiting for a reimburse for a week [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Fucken DA!!!!

[Theldios]

Originally Posted by Uthgaard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Holy shit, someone gets it!

Every time a guild dispute needs mediated by Rogean, everyone else's upper level issue gets pushed further down the line. Waiting on a reimbursement? Got hacked? There are only so many hours in a day. Stop and tally up how many of those get consumed every time a raid target turns into a playground rumble.

Time is a resource, like it or not. Our ability to help the players who need help through no fault of their own, is a direct function of your ability to help yourselves.

Why should they get priotiry over anyone else?
Let them rot in hell for all I care. they should not be put infront of other people. and for you to say that they do get priority over others shows favoritsim to the big guild vs the little guy which is really not that great of a job you keep patting yourself on the back for doing

[Tiggles]

Originally Posted by Theldios [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why should they get priotiry over anyone else?
Let them rot in hell for all I care. they should not be put infront of other people. and for you to say that they do get priority over others shows favoritsim to the big guild vs the little guy which is really not that great of a job you keep patting yourself on the back for doing

Sorry 80+ people fighting in a raid zone little tommy accidentally sold his short sword* to a merchant.