Bandwagon Proposal Thread.

[bizzum]

I actually like this as an alternative to the other proposal we had. Not bad at all.

[Snackies]

Originally Posted by bizzum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I actually like this as an alternative to the other proposal we had. Not bad at all.

Agreed.

I am pro DA/avoidance engages as long as they are capped (36s tops, but even 1 is fine)

[Spitty]

Originally Posted by Snackies [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Agreed.

I am pro DA/avoidance engages as long as they are capped (36s tops, but even 1 is fine)

Any clause that keeps it from being a delay-to-engage tactic would make sense, really.

DA/avoidance engaging is winner strategy for debuffing and positioning and shouldn't be taken away.

[Snackies]

Originally Posted by Spitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Any clause that keeps it from being a delay-to-engage tactic would make sense, really.

DA/avoidance engaging is winner strategy for debuffing and positioning and shouldn't be taken away.

Yep!

[Razdeline]

Originally Posted by Alarti0001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Simple Fair Solution

Tier A Guilds: FE/IB, TMO
Tier B Guilds: All the rest of youzes


1/2 of Inny/Fay/Sev/Gore/Tal/Naggy/Vox are open for Tier B guilds to kill as they see fit. Make a rotation, compete. Your choice!
1/2 of Draco's/Maestro's are open for Tier B guilds.

Tier B guilds may choose to compete on the other 1/2 of these mobs as they want without punishment.

Tier B guilds may compete in VP and at Trak/VS/CT as they want without punishment.

Tier B guilds will become Tier A guilds for a period of 30 days if they meet any of the following conditions. Kill a VP dragon, Kill 3 Trakanon's in a 30 day period, Kill 2 Venril Sathir's in a 30 day period, Kill 2 CT's in a 30 day period.

No Poopsocking(Logged in at or near a spawn) Tracking obviously permitted.
No DA engages(this can be a flat out policy or a time limit(36 seconds))



This gives out roughly 22 raid mobs to the server per month(not competed on by FE/IB or TMO)
The rest of the mobs are competitive.

This allows "casual scum" to have lots of raid encounters, but it also allows the best raids to be competitive. This is a happy balance between full competition and rotations.

Review, and when you do explain your position, what you would like to change, and the reasoning behind your dissent.

This is a good idea, however, 1/2 of these mobs that are "left" up need to have a time limit.

For instance, if an "A" tiered guild does not down Trak in "X" amount of time, then "B" guild can have a shot at it, although it may not be their turn. AND same vise/versa.

The philosophy behind this is, that the competitive spirit is not lost in raiding. No matter how fair, if there is no need for competition globally the raid scene will become stagnant.

[Alarti0001]

Originally Posted by Razdeline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is a good idea, however, 1/2 of these mobs that are "left" up need to have a time limit.

For instance, if an "A" tiered guild does not down Trak in "X" amount of time, then "B" guild can have a shot at it, although it may not be their turn. AND same vise/versa.

The philosophy behind this is, that the competitive spirit is not lost in raiding. No matter how fair, if there is no need for competition globally the raid scene will become stagnant.

I agree 100% on a timelimit. I just didn't think to add one. However, all "A" Tiered mobs are competitive always. This timelimit would apply to "B" tiered guilds. 6hrs should be more than enough?

[Spitty]

Indeed.

I don't know why simplicity is evil. The billion posts with a billion rules and a billion exceptions are insane.

Regardless of what I think of Alarti, his proposal is valid. It is folly to ignore a good idea just because you don't care for the person delivering it.

[Hitpoint]

I really like this idea, and am trying to have more people look at it.

Imo there should be a time limit to engage on all these proposals.

[Fuddwin]

Originally Posted by Spitty [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Indeed.

I don't know why simplicity is evil. The billion posts with a billion rules and a billion exceptions are insane.

Regardless of what I think of Alarti, his proposal is valid. It is folly to ignore a good idea just because you don't care for the person delivering it.

Originally Posted by Hitpoint [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really like this idea, and am trying to have more people look at it.

Imo there should be a time limit to engage on all these proposals.

ONWARD!

[Aaron]

BDA should be Tier A

Just checked:
BDA currently has 19 players online 50-60
FE has 9
IB has 4
TMO has 5

(that are not anon, obviously)

Either way, BDA is huge, with many high level and experienced players and should be treated as such.