Ranger or Monk?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Pan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

And finally...if, at the end of the day, you end up with a 'toon that's nothing more than a weak monk, you need to re-roll. You're just doing it wrong.

A Ranger IS a weak Monk lol. They are NEVER going to be a Monk DPS wise. They are pretty close to a Warrior DPS wise and really not that. I am not knocking a Ranger, but they are what they are.

I play one on live still. And a Ranger is, even in this day and age, and 10,000 AA"s, still is the worse melee in the game. And the worse Tank. Even a Bard is a better Tank than them now, and that is saying something. The devs have never got it right and never will with them. They are the Redheaded Stepchild of EQ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Pan]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

A Ranger IS a weak Monk lol. They are NEVER going to be a Monk DPS wise. They are pretty close to a Warrior DPS wise and really not that. I am not knocking a Ranger, but they are what they are.

I play one on live still. And a Ranger is, even in this day and age, and 10,000 AA"s, still is the worse melee in the game. And the worse Tank. Even a Bard is a better Tank than them now, and that is saying something. The devs have never got it right and never will with them. They are the Redheaded Stepchild of EQ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If dps/tanking is all you want to talk about, you're right...and you support my final point very, very well.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I play one on live still. And a Ranger is, even in this day and age, and 10,000 AA"s, still is the worse melee in the game. And the worse Tank. Even a Bard is a better Tank than them now, and that is saying something. The devs have never got it right and never will with them. They are the Redheaded Stepchild of EQ. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll admit I haven't played on Live since 2008, but I'm surprised by your comments because at that time Rangers were becoming more and more powerful with each expansion. I tanked for most of my groups and parsed on top for a couple of raid fights.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'll admit I haven't played on Live since 2008, but I'm surprised by your comments because at that time Rangers were becoming more and more powerful with each expansion. I tanked for most of my groups and parsed on top for a couple of raid fights.

To address this statement the last 2 expansions have upped the HP, Damage that mobs do now are through the roof. Almost impossible to solo anything now. Like 3 expansions ago a Mage COULD solo but even that isn't happening now.

So a Ranger is just not able to survive anymore Tanking. Not a monk anymore either. I have pretty much stopped playing the 90 through 100 level zones because I like to solo and that ain't happening now. Mobs are just WAY over the top.

And now you have to do 50 Million Quests to even get into the high end zones. Almost impossible Solo.

[fadetree]

Yah, the unperceived Irony is strong with that one. I agree with Pan completely, also having played a ranger main from release to L75.

[webrunner5]

Oh come on. I like Rangers. I have one on every EQ game I play. But no one is going to break up a group because THE RANGER left. They just don't bring anything to the table worth really inviting one. Or going, ahh shit bob the ranger is leaving. Plz, Plz stay.

They are pretty much a solo class and that is it. Like I have said before, sort of a cat and mouse class. Neat, but just not needed unless you want a Tracker.

[Ciroco]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They are pretty much a solo class and that is it. Like I have said before, sort of a cat and mouse class. Neat, but just not needed unless you want a Tracker.

...What exactly do Rangers solo effectively?

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by Ciroco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...What exactly do Rangers solo effectively?

Animals, just like a Druid does. Bow Kiting now and Fear kiting when Velious comes out.

Now, in Kunark, as a Ranger, you need to root or snare kite a mob down to like 60% with arrows then engage them Melee, snare and they turn at like 18%. So you only really get hit like 40% of the mobs health.

In Velious you just snare, fear animal, and Melee or shoot them in the ass with arrows when they run. Or Snare kite normal mobs like above in Kunark.

Either way it is a SLOW process and takes a lot of time and a shitpot full of arrows lol. On live or EQmac you get the AA Endless Quiver so you pretty much never run out of arrows and you only need one killer damage arrow. But here you can get the Tolan's Bracer but arrows suck damage wise. But a giant help non the less.

A Ranger is a pretty cool class solo. With Harmony easy to pull mobs outdoors. They just don't work out well in groups sad to say.

[Ciroco]

Yeah, that's not what I consider effective.

Love being a Ranger, but "solo class" isn't one of the phrases I'd used to describe them.

[K|mm Barely]

Play what's most fun to you even if it's masochistic.